What does Ciara not get about the fact that you can’t be buds with an ex?
MAYBE if things are amicable on both sides, which rarely happens.
Especially an ex that you are still hung up on, and he has no feelings whatsoever for you.
And I don’t want to hear about Lindsay and Carl. They merely are fine exchanging a few sentences here and there. Ciara wants to be ‘best friends’ for fucks sake with a dude she thinks she’s in love with, who does not love her back.
I don’t know that he ever even did have true feelings for her. She reminds me so much of Scheana on VPR.
Moving on, KJ and Dara are SO CUTE. I am really hoping she wasn’t just trying to get on the show. It’s a little disconcerting that she was hardcore flirting with Ben, and then suddenly switched up to KJ.
It makes me wonder, did an off-camera conversation take place? Where he told her he was planning to bring the boots chick on so maybe look somewhere else. Because she sure suddenly switched it up to KJ.
So far, they’re very drama-free, and I know it’s early, but if you think back to Jesse and Lexi last year, there was instant drama and chaos.
And what is the difference you ask?
Because KJ isn’t a toxic prick with a two inch dick and actually respects women. And she does SEEM genuinely into him.
I don’t know what would possess Dara to tell Ciara that West was drunkenly fondly talking about her when they went out the night before (allegedly.)
We know she eats that shit up. It also confuses her because she thinks this stupid prick is genuine, in anything that he says.
He probably wasn’t even drunk, and did it on purpose knowing someone would report to her, just to fuck with her.
I noticed that KJ seemed to get really uncomfortable when Dara started telling her. He sprinted out of the room. I think production told her to do that to fuck with Ciara. They know she gets all starry-eyed and gaga over West giving her two seconds of attention.
This girl amuses me to no end. Like I’m so onto her.
So she’s in bed in very modest sleepwear that was covering her body, then chooses to change into the most skimpiest PJ set imaginable, to go downstairs to join the crew for breakfast.
This looks like what you wear to bed when you’re having sexy time with a guy you’re with. Or you’re going to bed in the summer with no A/C perhaps.
She also ironically announced that she’s going to put pants on before going downstairs. Well good thing ya put pants on Ciara!
Literally this girl is so desperate for stupid useless West’s attention.
Sorry but you don’t wear this to a table, I don’t care if it’s a ‘Summer House’ and it’s casual, and they’re all friends, or what.
Isn’t she backwards?? Like most people will wear something skimpy to sleep in, I do, I get too hot, and then if I were going downstairs where there are like fifteen people at the table, I would throw on sweats or a sweatshirt, or change. You don’t change OUT of long sleeved sleepwear to wear the skimpiest pair of pj’s ever seen, to have breakfast with an entire crowd of people.
The other girls have great bodies too and you don’t see them sitting there like this, because they’re not thirsty and insecure AF.
It’s also a tad trashy.
She wonders why guys objectify her and just want to sleep with her.
I like how West didn’t even notice her. He never even looked up rom his food.
I wish someone would’ve said “Ciara did you forget your clothes?”
That would’ve been funny coming from Kyle. If Jesse or West said it, she would’ve gotten giggly and it would have been so cringy.
This is not how a person with self-respect comes to a table. She devalues herself.
You can call me a prude and a fuddy duddy all you want, because I know I’m not. If I was, I wouldn’t be onto her.
This behavior shows her desperation to get men’s attention constantly. I know, who doesn’t like attention? But not like this.
Like who wears this to a table where everyone else is fully clothed or in NORMAL sleepwear.
Maybe she should try finding a sense of humor and a personality?
Then she could wear clothes? And not be cold. Aren’t the girls always complaining that the house is cold?
Maybe she should have sat at the table being funny and engaging, instead of being naked?
I’m just throwing that out there.
Whatever. I know I’m harping. She goes to her room, and now magically has clothes on. Again she’s backwards. In the comfort of your private quarters, be 98% naked all you want. When you’re in a crowd inside the house, wear clothes (aside from swimming of course.)
West approaches her lying on her bed. He does his usual talking ‘at’ her whilst saying nothing.
But she seems to love any kind of attention this knucklehead gives her.
I get it. She’s still hung up on him. I just wish she could somehow force herself to act like she’s not? Is that too much to ask?
Sadly, that WOULD probably get his attention, but she’s too stupid to know that.
I don’t get why he has to grovel and apologize to a girl that he dated briefly three years ago and broke up with, for kissing someone?
This doesn’t make me any kind of West supporter. I’m just trying to be fair and make sense. Somewhat.
Since he has this extreme pussy side to him, he’s allowing her to make him feel guilty for every single thing he does. She takes full advantage of that.
West is acting nervous, which I’m having a hard time distinguishing if it’s even real. Ciara is pouty. And well, I know THAT’S real.
I feel like he doesn’t even mean his stupid little apology and speech. He can’t stop touching his face and we all know what that means. LYING.
I don’t get Ciara’s insistence of them being ‘friends.’ What’s the issue with them just coexisting – kind of Carl and Lindsay style??
You don’t see Lindsay desperate to ‘flirt’ with Carl, or vice versa? It’s weird.
As I said earlier, it’s just not feasible to be buddies with an ex you still have a thing for! Ugh!!
As if West cares about being friends with her. I canNOT!!
I’m shocked she put clothes on over her skimpy bikini pajama set. They must not have given her a heads up he was coming.
This conversation is annoying. Okay West so you “LIKE DO CARE.” Do ya now?? If you say so.
This dude is so full of shit.
Think he tells her this shit to just keep her on a string. I think he just likes that she makes him snacks in the middle of the night.
Seemed like there was closure to this convo, so not sure why the second one at the boat dock was necessary but whatever.
Ciara seems to love coming off desperate and depressed to this bum, and it makes me kind of sick.
I like Dara because I feel like she’s a contributor to a relationship kind of girl. Unlike Amanda, Ciara, Paige…
She likes to take care of her man, but not in a subservient 1950’s kind of way.
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It’s Thursday in the city. Ciara meets with Mia and her brother to see the Medium to possibly communicate with their mom.
I wondered if she had any heads up or back story? Probably. She immediately feels female energy.
This is so sad. I really like Mia.
She’s so much cooler than Ciara. Sorry.
How about this summer, (if they even film, after all of YOU KNOW) boring whiny Ciara out, (as well as Amanda of course) and Mia and Dara IN!
Who do I gotta blow to get that done?
Mia best have a baby girl one day, or she’s going to come after this medium lady.
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Okay so the next activity on the schedule is West being involved in a dog shelter event.
Kyle and Amanda join the festies, being that they’re dog owners of course. And that’s the only reason.
There’s a hello hug between West and Amanda, that lingers longer than a typical greeting hug. Looks like he even kisses her.
I don’t care what BS they’re trying to sell us, their romance or whatever they’re calling it, was in full force LONG before February of this year.
My estimation is shortly before filming commenced last year, maybe a month or two before. So that would put them at like May or June of 2025. So they’re literally like an entire year off of the actual truth.
There were clearly feelings, hook-ups, talking, and things going prior to filming in July.
If you watch knowing what we know now, there’s a lot of clues and queues.
Did you wonder why West got so involved in their fight that night? And could you not see that West was really worried Kyle knew and was going to say something?
Kyle goes inside to get drinks leaving Amanda and West alone.
They start talking about the Ciara and random chick thing.
Amanda’s voice is like nails on a chalk board to me lately.
Not Amanda making it about Ciara’s feelings, when it’s really hers she’s worried about.
Oh no she did not! She did the face touch when she scolds him about ‘disrespecting Ciara.’
Kyle brings them drinks and then quickly disappears. I thought that was weird.
I feel like the Ciara and West aftermath of their brief failed relationship has been talked to death.
We are over it!!
You can see Amanda’s expression of disapproval and annoyance, as she addresses how she hears that they’re ‘flirty’ when they go out at night.
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West’s caption is still ‘Sports Journalist.’ He like never talks about his work.
Remember when Summer House started? Their whole schtick was that they were these hustling corporate professionals who ‘worked’ for a living?? What happened to that??
I think they were trying to separate themselves from VPR. As if to say ‘we’re not a bunch of wannabe actors waiting tables. We’re educated and smart and WE WORK FOR A LIVING at our fancy corporate jobs!’
Now they may as well just have ‘Bravoleb’ under their captions. None of them work. Jesse now identifies as a ‘musician’ which I think is funny.
West cries in the car on the way to the house about pissing off Ciara, and that Amanda advised him to apologize to her AGAIN.
Knowing what we know now, what was Amanda’s motivation in ordering West to apologize to her a second time? I can’t fathom what it would be.
I’m not sure about Mia’s Scott. Something seems off. Something feels sketchy.
Later she does say that she’s thinking she needs to ‘make a change.’ I assume she’s over the ‘always working’ thing in various states and dumps him.
I wouldn’t be shocked if he’s cheating.
KJ and Dara are officially ‘going steady!’
Kyle is already at the house solo, on the phone with Amanda, who’s pretending to have one of her ‘mental health’ issues, and wants to stay home. I almost feel like Kyle was in on what was going on with her and West, and played dumb for the sake of the show.
I’m assuming she didn’t want to be around when West has this weird conversation with Ciara? Or maybe she and West were arguing because she was mad that West and Ciara are ‘flirty.’
Kyle really thought lazy ass Amanda was going to drive herself to the house later that night? That’s hilarious.
I really think she and West had an argument.
Ciara, KJ and Mia convene by themselves. Ciara, the hater of all relationships, unless it’s her fake one with West, tells KJ that he and Dara are moving too fast.
Girl take a damned seat.
They just decided to be exclusive. They’re not getting married. No one is pregnant.
Also normal people when a relationship doesn’t work out after a few months, they get over it and move one. They don’t keep complaining and milking it and talking it to death three years later. If they find they ‘moved too fast’ then they’ll figure it out.
Like leave KJ alone. He’s the most normal, together and mature guy that’s EVER been on this show.
Dara sees them ganging up on poor KJ and gives side-eye. They keep making this thing out of him being younger. Like how much younger IS he?
Bitches, mind your business. One of you is with a guy you never see, and the other one is 30 and legit never had a boyfriend. Jealous much?
Ciara must have heard me complaining, because she IS wearing clothes for a change. I’ve literally never seen her stomach and tits covered. Ever.
Ciara calls Amanda. She’s trying really hard to sound like she’s sick. However, she’s not saying she’s sick. Just sick of it.
This feels production manipulated.
Whiny Amanda voice telling Ciara she’s not coming because she ‘just can’t do it.’
She’s so very overwhelmed, what with juggling a husband and a boyfriend. It’s a lot.
Keep in mind you’re talking about one of the most laziest people I’ve seen, and she has a husband AND a side guy. No wonder she can’t even get out of bed to come to The Hamptons to lie in bed. What’s wrong with you people for expecting that?
Who can blame her for needing a weekend away from both dudes?
It’s a lot.
So they’re FaceTiming, and West happens to bust in Ciara’s room during the call, to apologize (AGAIN) and to talk this whole past situationship from THREE FUCKING YEARS AGO, until we’re (more) blue in the face, to death.
He asks to know who she’s talking to, as if he didn’t know it’s Amanda.
He keeps apologizing to her why? I really don’t know. What’s the aim here?? Wouldn’t you feel like it’s leading her on? And giving her false hope of a reconciliation? And possibly dating again?
Who knew at this point, but not only is that not happening, but he’s banging your married friend.
In her yaps, Ciara always acts so annoyed with the ongoing messy back and forth of flirting and getting along, then being mad at him when he doesn’t follow these ‘rules’ she put in place. Any other normal guy would tell her to fuck off.
Then him apologizing and pretending like he misses her.
Like what is happening? She does realize West has a very strange and unique personality, where he’s super non-confrontational so he just shuts up when he has shit he really wants to say.
I guess one could say, I kind of get that.
Most guys wouldn’t give a fuck at this point and wouldn’t even entertain pretending to give a fuck.
But West really does give it a shot.
To put it in perspective, can you even fathom if Lexi were here this season, after she and Jesse briefly dated, things didn’t go well, and then broke up?
Can you even in your wildest dreams fathom Jesse bowing down to Lexi and begging for her attention, and apologizing profusely for kissing some other girl in her presence?
That shows you how ridiculous all of this is, and what a pussy West is.
It’s literally almost like a trauma-bond situation. I thought you had to have been in an actual long-term relationship to achieve that kind of dysfunction.
Guess not.
Because she just hasn’t had enough yet, and her face isn’t blue enough yet, she goes running to his room like the desperate pick-me that she is, and asks to get coffee in the morning. TO TALK MORE ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO.
This girls need a GREAT therapist. She’s like watching Shallow Hal in reverse.
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They return from going out, and are doing the usual at the house. At least we know Kyle and Amanda won’t be having some ghetto type tiff since she’s not here.
Kyle marvels at how relaxed he is without Amanda around.
Yeah no shit. She’s a fucking buzzkill on steroids.
Amanda, not fun.
Which I’m sure West is finding out.
I don’t know if there’s a worse insult than being told you’re not fun. I’d rather be called anything else than not fun. Even ugly. Not that I’ve ever been called ugly, but you know what I mean.
Well my ex-husband might have called me ugly once or twice when he was feeling insecure about himself because he has a two-inch dick and knows he’s a useless heartless bag of dog shit. And he hates that.
Back to this – knowing what we now know, and I’m sorry if I keep saying that, is it extra weird that West now has a mullet??
I feel like Amanda traded Kyle for Kyle 2.0. Right? Am I right? I am so right.
Mia eludes in her yap she night be ditching Scott because the long distance is too much when she wants go get married and have kids.
I’ll have to look into if they’re still together now.
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Ciara and West leave early for the boat excursion for their ‘cawfee tawlk.’
I’m going to make this comparison again. Can you even imagine this scenario with Jesse and Lexi? Wouldn’t happen. Jesse would be like ‘fuck off.’
He didn’t even want to have a serious convo with her when they were together, let alone three years after they broke up.
The house is all abuzz with the news of Ciara and West leaving early together to chat. I don’t even see any coffee.
I have NO idea why we’re making this so dang dramatic. There is literally no reason this reiteration of what we’ve been hearing for three long years couldn’t have take place at the house by the pool while everyone was getting ready.
Ciara needs to learn to just ignore him. I don’t know why that’s so hard. If I were her, I would think that’s fun. I love giving guys the silent treatment. They hate it so much.
Ciara starts it by talking about how she’s afraid to talk to him and be nice to him.
Oh my God.
She quickly goes to the nerve of him kissing a girl in front of her, even though they broke up THREE YEARS AGO. After a BRIEF relationship.
And then, how he didn’t ‘see’ her. Girl, he DID see you, he just didn’t care enough to move.
And what does she not get about the girl sat on HIS lap. I don’t believe she knew anything about Ciara, or did it intentionally. If you recall, she even asked if she should get up when West told her he used to date the girl they’re sitting by. I feel like she was trying to be a girls’ girl.
West told her it was fine.
Ciara, you can move. Get up with your head held high and move. Instead she ran to her room crying and made it a whole entire big fucking thing it didn’t need to be.
West kind of looks at her like ‘why am I here right now dealing with this?’
Not Ciara monotone whining about West talking to the press and downplaying their relationship THREE YEARS AGO. AGAIN. Or is it STILL?
At what point will she realize West didn’t even care about her, and dumped her shortly after he got her in bed?
He only acts sorry and regretful because he’s trying to spare her feelings. I might possibly think he does feel a little bit dumb about the interview he gave, where he did speak of her disrespectfully, and he definitely should NOT have done that.
But honestly that’s it. And she let him HAVE IT that first summer, so why can we NOT move on??
I can see if they were together for a while, but they weren’t. I’m not minimizing her hurt, I know it still hurts to be rejected but it’s time to GET THE FUCK OVER IT.
Right? I’m right, right??
So she legit can’t see how annoyed West is that she has him cornered, and he’s forced to listen to this again?
She won’t drop this ‘best friend’ fucking BS for the life of her. Ciara, girl, he wasn’t your best fucking friend. He’s nothing but a fuck boy.
And what’s wrong with him saying they’re not each other’s people. That’s not THAT bad.
Did they really have this great ‘friendship’ or was it 99% in her head? I’m sorry but he does kind of look at her like she has six heads.
I feel bad for her that she has no idea she shouldn’t be doing this right now. I just find it so degrading for a woman to be groveling to a man like this.
She apologizes for not ‘being there for him’ when he was getting viewer backlash for saying doing that douchey interview.
He’s like very quickly and swiftly answers “that’s okay.”
Dude is thinking ‘HEY NO WORRIES.’ I guess it doesn’t occur to her if he wanted to speak to her he would have.
She really needs to watch ‘He’s Just Not That Into You.’
I think it would be a really cheap therapy session.
This has been the most entertaining part of the season. And I feel kind of mean saying that because I can see she’s in distress but at the same time, why?? Why are we rehashing this??
She doesn’t see West is just appeasing her? And the camera time isn’t hurting either.
I feel like she is the last person he wanted to talk to through all of that interview drama.
Seems to me he did pay the price, so not to be repetitive but we’re rehashing this why?
I thought this little meeting was because he kissed a girl, and she has deemed he’s not allowed? Because they dated briefly three years ago?
I’m going to hate to see how she reacts if she ever does get married – and divorced, or is in a long relationship that ends. That poor guy.
Ciara breaks the proverbial fourth wall, complaining about cameras and viewers and how things might be easier if it wasn’t for all of that.
She tells his she misses him as a ‘friend.’ Ugh! I HATE this for her.
How does too, he claims. How can he not? Well, you don’t, but okay West.
He AGAIN tells her he’s sorry.
Then didn’t we love this part? He tells her “I see you more” which was the verbiage that she used, so I guess a little birdie named Amanda told him that.
She was probably like ‘tell Ciara you see her so she shuts the hell up.’
The first time I watched, I didn’t think she clocked that as strange, but now I think she did.
So this whole conversation is basically in vain because he’s sitting here knowing he’s banging Amanda, and when that comes out the shit’s really hitting the fan with her.
I hate how he’s sort of leading her on.
And this ‘best friend’ shit. I cannot. It can’t work because first of all, Ciara’s only method of communication with guys is being extremely sexual and flirty. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. She’s single, she likes to flirt whatever, that’s all well and good. There’s just no way she can be ‘best friends’ with fucking West when she still wants him. Jesus.
Who even says that about an ex? Best Friends? No one. That’s how you’re normally NOT, with exes right? Am I so right, again?? Yes. I am.
She acts like they were good friends before they started dating, and that’s like not the case.
He hugs her. Oh my God. I can’t.
They joke about the Jesse ‘make out’ scenario.
I love how she pretends she wasn’t all into Jesse and crawling into his bed, and hinting that she thought she was a good fit for him in a relationship, when she was dissing Lexi.
If someone did that to her though, she’d go NUTS.
Minimizing Jesse and Lexi, is the same as minimizing Ciara and West.
Both guys were leading the girls on.
Girlfriend, you are SUCH a hypocrite.
