Never cried through the majority of a Housewife episode before.
My opinion not that you asked, Mary should have bowed out of the show so she could properly grieve after this happened.
Some of her comments to the group scene shortly after losing her only child were disturbing. I’m over her and playing the ‘God’ card. Sorry Mary but you and that disgraceful husband of yours are not Godly people. Drop the fucking act.
They were ABSOLUTELY indeed operating that so-called church like a cult, after Mary’s grandmother (and Robert Sr’s wife) passed away. They were 100% treating those church members who trusted them like absolute trash and their personal ATM’s.
I saw disturbing things with my own eyes on the church scenes on the show, where she was totally acting as if she was ‘God’ and being prayed to Remember she was sitting in front of the church with everyone paying her all of these compliments and borderline worshiping her. I remember the camera cutting to Robert Jr’s face during this sickening display, and he looked kind of bothered.
If you didn’t catch that doc that was on late last year, their behavior was sinister AF. I believe it. They had too many people saying the same things. They were also playing disturbing voicemails and showing text messages sent by Mary and Robert Sr.
It was on TLC, you can probably find it easily and watch it if you missed it.
The shit they were saying to their members, demeaning and insulting them for not handing over all of their money. Robert Sr demanding sex from I think his cousin’s wife, Mary swindling thousands out of that guy that she was intimate with IN THE HOUSE, with her husband and kid there, who ended of passing away from cancer after he started talking, having ‘help’ in the house that they ordered around like servants, and didn’t even pay them? The list goes on and on as to this being a horrible sinister circus going on in that house and church.
I’m not jumping on any bandwagon or ‘believing everything I hear.’ I formed my own intelligent opinion that Mary and Robert Sr are trashy abusive people. And fucking criminals.
My God, remember that girl that she spoke so horribly about to Whitney and her children that was killed in a horrific car accident?
That family was on the doc, and they were SO upset about how Mary casually talked about her death and even made a ‘wear your seat belt’ joke.
Allegedly, (she hasn’t denied it) she also never offered any type of condolences or said anything at all to the family.
They had a Go Fund Me page to help with funeral expenses (she was a young single mom, probably around Robert’s age.) Mary and her pervo demonic husband ordered the cult, I mean the church members not to contribute.
WHO DOES THAT???? Do normal fucking people do that? They knew parishoners contributing to the funeral would mean less money in their pocket.
Mary had the audacity in that scene with the other ladies to complain her siblings didn’t reach out to her at all, nor attend the service.
I don’t wanna say something as gross as what comes around goes around but…
I think she feels a lot of guilt, and she may also be in some sort of denial.
The other ladies seemed more upset than she was to be honest with you.
I feel like her lack of intelligence and common sense comes into play here by assuming Robert was going to stay clean after his release. In jail he had no choice. Once he got home of course he was going to want go get back on whatever it was he was doing. He should’ve been taken directly to rehab.
I didn’t really want to go on like that.
Sitting there listening to her pretend to be so holy was way too much.
Also by the way, the grandmother’s death was sketchy AF.
Also by the way, there was nothing in Grandma’s will, nor any verbal wish that Robert marry Mary. Just to be clear. The family ALL called bullshit on that.
Mary was young, cute, loved to spend money, and followed the cash flow, and that is why she is with Robert Sr. The church (that her grandmother ran like an ACTUAL church until these two sheisty assholes came along) was upset and grossed out by her marrying Robert after her grandmother passed. I mean really, I know it’s Utah and all but this was a GRANDFATHER figure to her. He was much younger than her grandmother, so the age gap is more like a parent and child age gap, but still gross.
These is all stuff that I was surprised wasn’t talked about more after that doc aired. I couldn’t believe more people weren’t disgusted.
When she was asked about it at the reunion last year, she dismissed it altogether. You could tell when she was lying. Andy didn’t press her and should have. Moron.
Okay well now that you’re brought up to speed on my feelings about that, we can move on.
I didn’t get the little lunch gathering at Angie’s where they brought flowers and and discussed Robert Jr. I guess just a reason for them to talk about it for the cameras, as a solidarity type of thing.
The whole thing is sad. I’m not a fan of Mary as you may have noticed, but this is not how things should have gone.
Angie dares to make a menopause joke to Lisa when she said she goes between being hot and cold.
Of course Lisa is unable to laugh at herself EVER, got all offended and announced “I’m on my period right now.” Like we needed to know that. So she’s 51, at this point for reference, so do the math.
You can tell she’s in peri from heir widening hair part and she’s gained a little weight, but okay Lisa, whatever YOU say. Just fucking laugh. Angie is around the same age and it wasn’t an insult. It was a joke.
Moving on. They all reminisce about Robert Jr and the conversations they’ve had with Mary about him, and kids in general.
Meredith comments on how strong Mary seems to be. Yeah that’s called being in denial and not dealing with grief.
Heather gets on a Heather-like soapbox and preaches that they need to treat each other nicely, remember what’s important, life is short, don’t take anything for granted… blah blah blah. You know that whole thing people say after after someone they know dies, that they rarely mean nor follow through with.
I feel like these bitches will stick to this for all of 32 seconds.
Okay they’re done talking about Robert jr. Now queue the cryptic music and they start talking about themselves and th eir petty squabbles.
I kind of hate how Heather compares this silly fake Housewife drama to Robert Jr’s death, but I guess nothing should surprise me at this point.
Whitney address her drunken behavior and bitchy shit she said about Lisa and Meredith at BravoCon last year. I thought she was kind of hilarious.
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Oh Lisa! Lisa Lisa! trying so hard to repair the old image.
Now she’s suddenly Suzi Homemaker who’s slaving away over a hot stove (that she doesn’t now how to work) making grilled cheese sammy’s for her 14 and 21 year old.
Finally, now that one’s a whole ass adult, she makes him some food. A grilled cheese that a ten year-old can make. You know how a grilled cheese is the first thing you cooked when you were allowed to use the stove when you were a kid.
I was shocked to see an all grown up Henry, and Jack is back!
Remember Lisa and John arguing last season about when Jack came back from his mission, that he wanted to get his own place and Lisa said be allow“I don’t think he should be allowed to move out.”
Allowed? He’s 21. John disagreed.
Guess who won that argument? I’ll give you a hint. Jack seems to be living at home.
I didn’t catch the first time I watched that she said she’s going to ‘try’ to make a grilled cheese.’
She has two grown kids and never made a fucking grilled cheese before???
I’m trying to figure out if I’m disgusted or jealous. Henry the child, does it for her. You turn the knob, Lisa. And she looks like she’s never grated cheese before. She reminds me of Kendall Jenner trying to cut a cucumber.
This scene, and especially the one that follows was clearly designed to salvage her image as ya know, the perfect all-around wife and mother who does NO wrong ever.
Jack approaches and says “MOM, what are you doing in the kitchen??”
They both seem to be quite the ladies men. I don’t want to compare them to that demon in Atlanta but perhaps have a little talk with them that ‘NO means NO!’ They are kind of talking about girls like they’re conquests to be had.
I can see these kids being entitled with Lisa as their mom.
She’s mad they’re getting older and she has no control over them. She’s funny. She absolutely lacks any self-awareness whatsoever.
Henry’s ‘I’m just kissing them’ comment was a little off-putting. He seems like he’s really trying to impress his brother.
The boys liked her ‘goat cheese grilled cheese.’ I myself would not put goat cheese in a grilled cheese, because it probably doesn’t melt in the 4 minutes it takes for a grilled cheese to be done.
Now ‘The Apology’ scene that was quite clearly ORDERED by Lisa to show the Bravoverse that she does absolutely nothing wrong, and John was WAY off base to even dare insinuate that.
I have noticed John having a little bit of a ‘tude the past two seasons. You may have missed it, but he was definitely mildy lipping off to her.
He seems to be over her being so materialistic and shallow.
Last season he finally addressed how she’s all about herself, and doesn’t listen to him (as production played several scenes of her NOT LISTENING TO HIM.
The way this poor guy grovels and apologizes you would think he banged ten fucking women. My God, my ex banged like fifty fucking women and I NEVER got an apology even close to this shit. In fact, I got blamed!!
Lisa has this poor guy’s nuts in a vice and it’s so sad.
She’s prob been tormenting him and making him kiss her ass for othe past fucking year. He NEEDS to grow a pair. Keep in mind all he said was ‘you don’t listen to me.’ I mean YA CAN’T MAKE THIS SHIT UP!
I recall watching that last year, and being like ‘YASSS!!GO JOHN! FUCKING FINALLY!’
Finally he got a backbone and is speaking up about what sounded like 25 years worth of frustration.
Now here we are, wah wah wah. Poor guy was forced to swallow his pride and balls, and grovel to her and blame that he was jealous of her success. This poor guy looks weathered.
You know full goddamned well SHE came up with the jealous bit!!
In that discussion last year, he wasn’t being mean. He wasn’t slinging insults nor yelling.
He was trying to tell her how he feels about her self-absorption.
She got super-defensive, turned on the water works and made him feel bad for ‘hurting her feelings’ when he was trying to explain that she was hurting him.
That alleged apology was disgusting. He owed her no apology.
Lisa you are a stupid fucking twat. This man is a gem and you treat him like shit. He needs to man up and to see a lawyer.
Stay tuned for Part 2!
