So it’s paradise now Daisy? Thought it was a dump?
The ‘paradise’ comment quickly gets followed by bitching that she has to brew her own Keurig.
That being said, Erika really should brush up on being a hostess if she’s going to ‘entertain’ here.
I know she has staff but I think she should be greeting the ladies in the kitchen and making sure they get coffee. Looks like there is a spread prepared of some light breakfast items.
So it’s Easter Sunday? All of these women with little kids and they’re on a girls trip on Easter? Just saying.
What’s with these bitches hanging out with each other by the ocean where correct me if I’m wrong, it’s KNOWN for being breezy, with robes and skirts and no fucking underwear? Of course Hailey has to announce it to the staff lady who looks at the camera, and doesn’t know wthat to say.
At Carole’s age, I wouldn’t be sitting on someone else’s furniture in a sheer skirt and no fucking underwear. Hopefully you all know what I’m getting at.
She bitches they made her an omelette, when she wanted scrambled. Erika ditches her guests to go on a ‘hike’ with Erin. She heard Carole say her eggs weren’t right and she didn’t care. She’s a terrible hostess.
The purpose of the hike with Erin is to discuss the insurance fraud accusation. I guess it was too hard for Jessel to say last night what Erika is explaining now that it wasn’t literal. They were talking smack on her, as they always do. Jessel is jealous of her, and that’s what bitches do when they’re jealous, and she blurted that out as a joke. An unfunny joke.
Erin too is deciding the island is ‘breathtaking’ after the ‘dump’ comments last night.
Jessel tells Sai that comment was a joke, when legit NO ONE said that to Erin when she was flipping out. Jessel just kept blaming everyone else.
So this is interesting. We see later in the ep, Sai tattling on Erin for talking about Pavit being gay, and here’s Erin saying Sai has said shit too.
Let’s be real. He’s definitely gay. And I don’t mean that in a mean girl way. He is. He should man up be honest with Jessel and divorce her. This isn’t fair to the women.
It’s like the Southern Charm guys. My theory based on observations on the show for ten fucking years, is that 95% of them are gay, yet they continue to date women and waste their time. They’re so in denial. No one even cares if they’re gay.
It’s to the point where the show should be about a bunch of gay guys that are friends. Rodrigo’s the only one that’s man enough to own his gayness.
Back to this. Sai, throwing Erin under the bus is shitty when she was saying the same damned shit about Jessel and Pavit’s marriage.
This confused me:
Sai bitches about Erin (you can see a theme here right?) to Jessel that Jenna Lyons texted her after the divorce filing hit the press to say she’s sorry, and she “already knew they were separating.”
Jenna claims she didn’t hear of her marriage issues from Erin herself, but someone else that she told.
Game of telephone. Does it really even matter? The bigger issue is she’s a fucking home-wrecking ugly skanky liar, like someone else I know, but I guess we’re not talking about that.
This isn’t even anything. Big fucking deal Sai. OMG WHAT? Another Housewife is divorcing?? And I can’t hardly even believe it’s this cold-hearted miserable evil elf. She and Danny from The Valley should get together.
They both look like evil deranged elves. And I’m not even making fun of their shortness. I’m short. It’s more their overall look. Can you imagine if those two had a kid? And what it would look like? At least if Danny was with Sai he wouldn’t have to pretend he’s tall and lie about his height.
Sai needs to go away. Forever.
Omg not ‘the kids’ card.
Housewives are so funny. Sai, I think your kids have figured it the fuck out. Not to mention, no one told your kids anything. Your husband is divorcing your dumb ass. It’s public info, and it’s on blast since you’re a Bravoleb, and that’s how your kids know. Not from Erin.
Is this broad okay?? Her kids are not privy to gossip amongst the women of Manhattan.
Back to the no-panties crew, the google discussion is a segue into Carole discussing her Epstein Island connections, which she seems very anxious to do, and brings it up twice. They seem surprised she’s so willing to discuss it.
This might be the number one reason she decided to do the show. This is a great way for her to reach a million people, and attempt to clear her name about being involved in the sex-trafficking. Or knowing about it.
She claims she never knew Epstein and Ghilaine or whatever her name is, I don’t care if I’m spelling it right or not, never spoke of him to her.
I did some further research and Carole was friends with her from 2000 clear through 2008-2009.
Epstein was arrested and got a slap on the wrist in the mid-2000’s. I feel like at this point, they were friends for six years, he had to have been mentioned to her by Ghilaine.
In a pod clip I saw on TikTok, she said she did briefly meet him at a party. But here she says she never met him.
I think Carole loved the events and social engagements she was getting invited to by being friends with her, and may have overlooked what she was hearing.
I think their ‘falling out of touch’ which Carole just paints as ‘we weren’t that close to begin with so we just drifted apart’ was more because she was hearing what was going on, and wanted to distance herself.
Clearly it was a superficial friendship, but I think they were better friends than she’s letting on.
I don’t mean to sound like a dick, but according to her, she and Carolyn, the wife of a Kennedy, were BESTIES, and no pics exist of them posing together.
However she and Ghlaine were ‘sort of friends, not that close’ and there are a SHIT TON of pics of them together.
I’m just saying. THAT’S what Sai should have asked. Not ‘OMG so weird she got your PHONE NUMBER!’ Since when are phone numbers top fucking secret? Didn’t there used to be a thing called a phone book? Is she also not aware you can find someone’s number online in two seconds? Maybe cell numbers weren’t that easily attained back then, but it’s STILL a stupid point she’s trying to make. Especially when there are so many better questions.
Carole defends in her yap that Gilaine always seemed to be at events, and they had mutual friends. Any time they were together it was through these ‘mutual friends.’ Allegedly.
How did English Jessel not know who the ‘Duke of York’ was. She’s so dumb.
So the ‘friend’ this bitch wanted to set Carole up for to go to dinner with with she was in London, was Prince Andrew. Definitely a participant in the sex-trafficking.
I’m assuming we’re all maybe in agreement that they possibly wanted to recruit Carole.
My takeaway from all of this, is that I don’t think she’s being totally forthright, but I also don’t believe she was involved in any sex-trafficking.
Or maybe it’s just that I don’t WANT to believe it.
She was doing A LOT of touching of her mouth area while explaining this, which is a very common body language queue of someone not being truthful.
I don’t know that the email exchange that they flashed on the screen is anything incriminating. It does sound like ‘the girls’ meaning like your girlfriends. ‘Going out with the girls…’
However I do find the email message looking like they were better friends than what Carole describes. She’s joking about replacing Carole with another girl (assuming friend) if Carole ‘doesn’t suck up to her enough — hee hee’ (this was before ‘lol.’) I think it was kind of an odd exchange in my opinion. And it seems like they were chummy.
Nobody brings up Epstein’s alleged ‘suicide’ in jail.
Sai is more worried about Carole’s phone number being shared.
This exchange was weird too, when Carole says she was so happy when he got arrested ‘a couple years ago” (it was in 2019 – so seven years ago, not a couple.) Okay Captain Obvious.
Well I would certainly HOPE you would be happy? MY GOD. She kind of said it in a way as if it wasn’t that big of a deal. Like if you saw someone shoplift and you’re glad they got caught.
Then Sai said something stupid and Sai-like – “why were you upset if you didn’t know him?”
Sai you dumb bitch, it was public fucking knowledge of what he was doing by this point.
I don’t know why Carole wouldn’t have said that. You didn’t have to ‘know him’ to be happy he was arrested?
To clarify, he was also arrested twice in 2006 for running a ‘prostitution’ operation then again in 2008-09, where he did a little jail time.
Coincidentally, this is when Carole and Gilaine stopped being friends.
I wish she’d be more honest. Because if she’s lying about their friendship status and why it ended, what else is she lying about?
Carole changes the subject to how she was assaulted in college by her professor.
I’m sorry to hear that and all, but the reason she was happy he got caught running a sex ring involving underage girls is because a professor came onto her 40 years ago? Okay.
Women that don’t have kids say really tone deaf things. This is about HER now?
Not those children??
I’m ready for this to be done. Carole and Sai are both annoying me. Sai for her dumb ass questions, and Carole for all over the place with this, and not being truthful about what she knew and when.
Now there’s a competition as to whether or not Carole’s tabloid situation is worse than Hailey’s. STUPID.
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Why is Carole clutching her pearls over drinking a margarita ‘early.’ It’s a vacation. It doesn’t count. It’s noon somewhere.
Daisy doesn’t hesitate to accept the marg offer.
Carole wants to know if Sai’s always such a dick? Yes, Carole she is.
I honestly didn’t follow her ‘but Sai’s had a colorful past…” rationale. I don’t think you can compare whatever she’s referring to about Sai (homewrecking little slut) with possible involvement in a prostitution operation involving minors.
Which I don’t think she was. I just think she may have knew stuff and ignored it.
They ‘relax’ in the hot tub, however the vibe doesn’t seem at all relaxing.
Carole is still bitching about it being ‘too early for a cocktail.’ What is WRONG with her? Like stop being such an old fogey.
Predictably, Sai and Daisy start to bicker and act like they hate each other, as the ‘good friends of twenty years’ always do.
The poor staff lady behind the bar doesn’t know what to make of this.
Sia was chomping at the bit to yell at Erin for ‘outing’ her for being separated.
Yes you read that right. Because you know Sai is the first Housewife to be getting divorced.
She pretended like it was a secret in the first few episodes when literally everyone already knew.
Erin admits to sharing this tea with Abe. To be fair, Abe could’ve told someone??
She denies telling anyone.
Why is Jenna causing all of these problems? This is so not like her.
How many hundred times did Sai practice that stupid ‘queefing’ line? The Brooklyn accent is coming out again.
She announces that Erin had said some shit about Pavit. As soon as she said this, I knew what it was.
Sai is being so extra and clearly looking for her Housewife moments.
Everyone picks on Erin when they want to feel important.
Are they all jealous of her? is it because she’s pretty? It kind of seems like it. They’re always bullying her. Erin doesn’t talk shit any more than the rest of them do. But for some reason she’s the only one that gets called out.
Why does Hailey hate her so much? Still over the boob thing?
One of the very first scenes of the season were those two hanging out and Erin laughing along at Hailey’s quirkiness.
Erin never has anyone that has her back. This reminds me of what they did to her in a previous season with that whole phone prank thing that got blown wayyyyyy out of proportion by that nutball Ubah. Who misses HER? Didn’t think so.
Like they literally ALL ganged up on Erin when stupid Jessel and Ubah, with two brain cells between them, couldn’t figure out she had Ubah’s phone despite ALL of the hints she dropped. It went on as long as it did, because those two are fucking DUMB.
Erin leaves the area, not before stepping on a piece of glass that was in the pool, which no one seems really concerned about.
Erika, the terrible hostess that she is, does check on her but doesn’t seem to really care and admits in her yap she’s mostly concerned she doesn’t get sued.
She doesn’t even say she sorry. Not that it’s her actual FAULT, but when someone cuts their foot on glass in YOUR pool on YOUR property, you are fucking apologetic and you fucking cater to that person.
Jessel approaches her, apologetic over the insurance joke, but wants to discuss what was said about Pavit. Erin denies saying anything.
This phone call to the male makeup artist, which you already knew was going to be the gay rumor, was clearly orchestrated. Duh, we know how this works by now. He had orders on what to say. Sai is even caught mouthing his exact words. Watch it again if you missed it.
It’s when he says that Erin said “she has proof.”
Jessel is kind of shitty for okaying this. I feel like things were a little tense in her household the night that this aired. Pavit was probably so pissed. Do I believe what the makeup guy said? Yeah I kinda do. Do I think Jessel knows there is truth to it. Yeah I kinda do. He looked like he wanted to puke in her first season when she was trying to sit on his lap and make out with him.
She probably even had concerns when she married him. I feel like it as a ‘desperate to get married and have kids’ type of situation. Like Emily and Shane on OC. Like ‘okay, you’ll do, clock’s a tickin.’ Of course we know what Emily’s number one motivation was with Shane.
Erin, Carole and Daisy have a pow-wow about Sai’s anger towards Erin for telling someone about her marriage troubles. Erin maintains she doesn’t recall telling anyone.
Carole almost sounds like she’s taking Sai’s side. Seriously Carole? The witch just accused you of of sex-trafficking teenagers.
She brings up what I hope you’re all thinking, the ridiculousness of it all being some big huge fucking secret.
Sai clearly just wants to milk this as a storyline, and to make it seem more interesting than it is. There isn’t even anything scandalous about it. They legit just started hating each other. It’s normal.
Daisy claims it was a secret (even though she was telling people.) Okay. Again, seems like desperation to make this appear juicy.
Carole mentions she had heard it thought the grapevine too, before he filed and it hit the Bravoverse.
Carole whose side are you on here?
It’s possible Erin mentioned it, not realizing it was some top secret intel. Carole grills Erin on what she said about Pavit.
Sorry not sorry but Sai calling someone ‘despicable’ is really the pot calling the kettle black.
You just called Carole a sex-trafficker in your yap. That’s kind of ‘despicable.’
You have to remember people listed in these ‘files’ are most likely everyone those two associated with. It doesn’t mean they were all participants. Prince Andrew? Yes definitely a participant. And the list goes on and on.
Whatever.
Sai acts like it’s this spur-of -the-moment decision to call Chris, her makeup dude for validation that Erin called Pavit gay, and claimed to have receipts. Jessel does look apprehensive. Perhaps she wasn’t in on the phone call plan until the last minute?
Poor Pavit. I’m feeling bad for the guy. He just likes boys. Who cares. He needs to man up and tell Jessel, and leave the marriage. He tried. It doesn’t help that Jessel is a very unlikable annoying person.
I think it’s weird Sai is referring to Pavit’s alleged gayness as ‘despicable and disgusting’ to another gay guy, is it not? I’m sure he was thinking that.
Jessel looks, worried.
Why is Sai dropping the ‘F’ bomb this season so much. And this is coming from someone who is guilty of swearing too much, so if I think it’s excessive, she must be swearing A LOT. She kept saying “goddamned” at a religious gathering at Daisy’s. Zero class.
And to say “what did she say about FUCKING Jessel’s husband…” Like calm down woman. She seems a little too excited for Jessel to know this. It’s not really how a ‘friend’ behaves.
I mean, the way Sai is nodding her head and smirking amid Jessel’s shock, at delivering this news to the universe is disturbing (as he verifies that she stuck up for him by saying it’s not cool to ‘out’ someone like that.) Ummm, okay?? That’s not contradictory at all.
The look on Jessel’s face is sheer humiliation. Oblivious Sai who just wanted to be right and get Erin in trouble, doesn’t even look at Jessel nor try to comfort her.
The only defense Jessel can come up with is to claim he has a ‘dad bod’ and doesn’t work out, so he couldn’t possibly have gotten busted at a gym. Wouldn’t the normal reaction be like “my husband is NOT gay!”
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So they’re off to play ‘tipsy tennis.’
Thought Carol “didn’t do looks.” This looks like kind of a look. Is it a great look? No, but it’s definitely a look.
What happens while playing tennis was perhaps the universe intervening.
This is starting to look like ‘Scary Island 2.0’ with Erin’s foot gashed opened and now Sai popping her knee. These women have to realize that if they’re not active and don’t ever stretch or work out, you can’t suddenly do shit like this, if you’re not 25. Sai’s body is not toned and does not look like she works out.
She has Satan living in her soul, so this shit happens. Combining alcohol with an athletic activity, also isn’t smart.
OMG I LOVE flamingos! I want one!
I think maybe another reason why Sai fucked up her knee is punishment for those ridiculous Erkel glasses. Is this 70’s glasses trend SOON over? It needs to be.
Are they sunglasses or is she trying to look smart?
And one – two – three – bitch is DOWN.
Erin doesn’t look too concerned. She doesn’t move to join the others in assisting her. To be fair, Sai didn’t care and made a snide comment when she had a hunk of glass in her foot earlier. It’s the Bravo Gods doing their job.
Her good friend Daisy doesn’t exactly run to her side. She just shrieks “what happenendddddd?”
Erika looks annoyed, and doesn’t move overly fast either. I’m sure she’s thinking ‘OMG not again! I’m totally getting my ass sued.’
Before you know it, this ‘dump’ is going to belong to these bitches.
