Picking up with Ciara following West to the front landing not really a porch. Jesse joins.
West comments how it feels so 2023. Ciara jumps all over that shit, stating “we’re so back.”
Well that was awkward.
West is like ‘yeah no we so ARE not.’



I like how he responds “I appreciate it” to her insinuation that they’re back to dating. Kind of the equivalent to someone saying ‘thank you’ when you tell them you love them.
She is so desperate for this man’s attention and validation.
Lindsay approaches Amanda recapping her conversation with Kyle.
Again, so fucking weird that these two can’t seem to speak to EACH OTHER.
We have the biggest failure of all time in relationships and keeping men, running around being the mediator and giving advice and marriage tips.
Whatever. She’s sober and not acting like a holy terror so I guess let’s pick our battles.
Amanda doesn’t care but is trying to act like it I guess. Kind of.
She gets filled in on what Ciara said to him at the beach, but she most likely already knew this.
Like who the fuck has their friend go tell their husband she wants to separate??
Bailey goes on a whole thing about ‘sexy angry Carl.’

Lindsay seems to not agree.

Amanda laughs. She’s so NOT distraught.
Kyle however is still crying and whining and expressing remorse about how he acted and trying to explain to everyone where he’s at.
Now he has Ben consoling him, who if you recall has a crush on Amanda so, this all keeps getting stranger.
Ben hugs his little friend.

Amanda continues to look unbothered as she saunters down the hallway carrying her purse. Is she leaving??
Then this very controversial embrace where Amanda thanks West for pulling his chair up to her, who is trying to get away from Ciara, clearly.
This is an interaction of two people in an actual relationship, as we all now know, but believe me, I’d definitely be giving this side-eye if I didn’t know.

I can’t with everyone pitying and acting like Amanda is an abused wife. He muttered ‘fuck you’ to her.
Jesus Christ people I would HATE to tell you names and things my ex-husband said to me.
Pretty sure I got called a whore, an ass-fuck-hole, (whatever the hell that is) stupid or dumb more times than I can count, he made fun of my clothes and outfits, (and I actually dress really cute and get complimented frequently) bitched at about the house, when I kept a very nice house given I worked full-time and we had two kids, and he never helped.
All he did was put me down and tell me I wasn’t good enough regularly. He would deny that if he I pointed that out, because he’s a compulsive liar and lives in an ulterior universe. In other words, a narcissist, because he was BABIED as a child. And he’s still a big BABY. Mooching off of one of the ugly chicks he was fucking around on me with. Won’t even help his kids out. Loser.
Who the hell cheats on his wife with a fat ugly chick? I guess my husband when said fat ugly chick ‘has a nice house and a ridiculous job.’ Direct quote.
He just always gave me a such a hard time about every fucking thing I did. Meanwhile he’s also fucking around on me with bitch after bitch non-stop for YEARS.
He would like about that too, even though I caught him numerous times in lies, mostly having to do with other women.
He lost his job as a police officer because he was fucking around with some girl while on the job.
I don’t know why I stayed with him. I really don’t. I should have NEVER stayed with him as long as I did. He continues to make my life miserable because his ugly bitchy miserable scowling wife is obsessed with me, and turns my daughter against me as ‘payback’ for things I won’t get into.
I’m actually going to be elaborating more about my marriage on here.
Watching The Valley, and how Danny treats Nia, is bringing a lot of bad memories back. She needs to get out marriage and STAT.
Amanda can’t even keep her apartment clean when she has no kids and no job.
I mean, I really I would have loved to just have ‘fuck you’ muttered to me.
Back to this, she even tells West ‘I love you.’
Kylie and Carly get together to squash their little tiff that was not a fight at all, that they had outside.
Who in their right mind thought these two knucklehead pansies would actually fight??

I won’t do a blow-by-blow. Kyle explains where he was coming from. They make up.
Meanwhile Amanda is sucking up the ‘victim’ status not seeing how frustrating it was for Kyle to be accused of this that and the other thing, when Amanda is a sucky wife.
She keeps saying “I didn’t even say anything.”
Yeah dummy, that’s the fucking point. You sat there saying NOTHING, and only wanted it squashed when YOU looked bad,
How funny and perhaps slightly cute was it when Kylie and Carly came running to Lindsay like she’s their mother, reassuring her that they made up?

Jesse reminding Kyle he should probably go and speak to his wife?
Of course we already know that convo will go nowhere, but it’s amusing how Kylie seems to have kind of of forgotten how that’s probably more important than his little girly fight with Carly.
Muttering ‘fuck you’ to your wife under your breath isn’t ideal, but why are we acting like he beat the shit out of her?
Also throwing things and pounding on the table, not good. He should work on the outbursts. Especially when he has to know he’s being baited. Is he stupid or something? But what do I know, besides everything.
Amanda lies between Ciara and Mia in bed and whines the same old whines and they tell her the same old thing. Why are they always ‘in bed’ with each other. I get it the bedrooms are their space but, why do we have to get INTO the bed?
Kyle approaches her to issue his standard apology that Amanda does not receive.
Mia and Ciara don’t see that maybe they can get up off of their asses and let them talk, or at Amanda could ask them to move so they can be alone??
Or does it really even matter? Yeah, probably not.
Kyle rambles about how he was excited to tell her about Vegas, (we know she already was aware) and how frustrated he was with the smug look on her face.
Should have just stuck with ‘I’m sorry for losing temper and saying ‘fuck you.’ This is more like an ‘I’m sorry, but…’ type of thing that doesn’t seem sincere.


Amanda says “it’s not even about the DJing stuff.”

Thought that’s the MAIN THING that this was about. The whole entire lecture from Lindsay was about DJing, and not being home, and making DJ-related decisions without discussing it with her.
I’m so confused. So is Kyle I guess. He mutters some complaints about being worn down and not on the same team. Amanda just says “ yeah.” Can’t get her ass up. He leaves the room.
She whispers “where was the apology?” Hesaid he was sorry for what he said. That sounds like an apology to me. The dumbass wasn’t even listening. Was it the best apology? No, but he did say sorry.
Kyle goes to their room and starts muttering to himself. He knows this is getting picked up, and that’s why he’s doing it.
He’s not wrong in saying she won’t end the marriage because she can’t do anything for herself.

This does NOT stop them from still going out to the club– as it shouldn’t.
Was it a little weird that Kyle went instead of trying to patch things up with his wife? I guess in a normal relationship it would be.
They pass each other by in their room and Amanda bitches he’s going out and not talking to her, then points out he did try.
She said he was just talking about himself. Well, isn’t he what the argument was about?
He lists an entire litany of sorry’s, and she tells him that’s not what he’s supposed to be sorry for.
I’m so confused.
She does that thing that her tone sounds like what she’s saying makes sense, but it totally doesn’t. Why doesn’t Kyle say some of the shit to her that he was telling Carl, and muttering under his breath??
He won’t speak the hell up, she thinks she ‘won.’
Back from the club, West Jesse and Kyle are in the kitchen getting snacks and where do you think Ciara is?
She’s leeching onto West like she probably was the entire time they were out.

None of the girls are in the kitchen, except for her.
And THEN WHEN I thought I couldn’t possibly be more embarrassed for her, she follows them into their BEDROOM.

I just don’t even have words. You can see in West’s face and body language, he wants her to JUST GO AWAY.
She’s clearly bad at reading a room. And body language. And facial expressions.
Jesse keeps making comments about them hooking up, just to make West feel uncomfortable, since he knows about Amanda, and seems to be fine with Ciara looking foolish and clueless in all of this.
Kyle tries to cozy up to Amanda in bed, and apologizes again. In case she asks again ‘where’s the apology?’
Let the record show he said he was sorry like at least eight times now.
She doesn’t respond and doesn’t move. You can tell Kyle is completely exasperated.
Who else found it ironic when West says “Imagine being a snake.”

Yeah West, IMAGINE being a snake.
West and Jesse discuss in their room ‘Kyle and Amanda taking time apart’ which of course West is all for.

Ciara is the party planner, a wintry theme.
Remember when Paige and Ciara used to get out of all party preparations and clean-up, (as well as dinner prep and clean-up) and they got called out at the reunion one year? I loved that so much. I loved it because they knew it was true, and after that they started pulling some weight.
Gooney Sabrina will be attending. She is SO ODD. I can’t even stand it. Throwing herself at everyone and telling them that she loves them. It’s too much.
She goes running into Jesse’s arms, and then slobbers all over Ciara, telling them that she loves them.
What’s with the chokers? Always with a choker. In the summer. And long sleeves.
At least we never saw those horrific boots again.

Why is Lindsay now in West and Jesse’s room? At least she’s not desperately trying to hook up with one of them (not that that’s above Lindsay.) She gossips about Ciara commenting that she loves West at dinner.
West is again uncomfortable with all of this Ciara talk. Just like he was on the porch, and when she was in his room. Both times.
Like I said, he created this. I really think even if he wasn’t hooking up with Amanda, he would still be annoyed, because he doesn’t feel that way about her. Plain and simple.
In his yap, he expresses his annoyance at how she’s up his ass constantly, and she needs to calm the hell down. I paraphrased.

Aaaaaaannnd here’s desperate Ciara AGAIN in West’s room in her bikini as he and Jesse get ready for the party.
I can’t with this girl.
All women and girls: Everything Ciara does, please do the opposite.

Jesse continues to make weird comments about Ciara and West knowing full well he’s fucking Amanda. I really hope she calls him out on this bullshit at the reunion, but I’m worried she won’t, because she’s going to be too busy screaming at West and Amanda.
Also even watching it back herself, she may be too dumb to see what Jesse was doing.
This party is kind of cool, I guess. Haha – no pun intended.
Jesse chats with Ciara about West, as Dara chats with West about Ciara, because we HAVE TO keep talking this stupid so-called reconciliation to death.
West looks completely checked out of and disinterested in this conversation about a possible relationship with Ciara.

Jesse asks her if they’ve spoken about the fact that he’s not really into her like that. That’s not what he said, but that’s what he meant.
No. Of course they haven’t. Although West’s responses and body language should be enough explanation for her, but that does not seem to be the case.
She sounds like a fool in her yap as she’s hopeful they will be dating again, or at least ‘friends’ outside of the two months of filming. I get it she didn’t know about Amanda, but the fact that she’s not seeing any of these signals is mind-blowing.

What she doesn’t get is that West doesn’t want to be her friend like that. He just wants to do and say what he thinks viewers want him to. And she can’t see that aspect either I guess.



