Monica had claimed that she was never Jen’s paid employee, which is strange to me that she was in charge of her surveillance system in her house, which meant she had access to spy on her. And is this something you would ask a friend to do for you ? Or someone working for you?
This is where she got her info about Lisa meeting Snoop Dog, and bragging about it, which she threw in her face about how obnoxious that was. This is literally almost like watching somebody standing there digging their grave.
Lisa was very adamant in that scene that she knew she had never said that to Monica, so how does she know this? Well Lisa was right to be suspicious of her and accusing her of being sketchy in that scene.
Monica tells her to “choke on a dick” See what I mean with this girl? Totally needs to work on comebacks
She denies the stalking accusations, however, there’s video played of her stalking Jen, which Monica claims wasn’t ACTUAL stalking. Guys, listen, she was just driving past her home several times per day.
Lisa has a valid point and I probably would’ve said the same thing. You have four kids, including two little ones, and this is really how you’re choosing to spend your time. Seems like trashy parenting. The two younger ones were even with her in her car doing the drive-by’s with binoculars. But not stalking.
This whole trying to catch her drunk driving, and the FBI told her to keep an eye on her is so beyond ludicrous, and I am again feeling so embarrassed for this girl. You know, I really wanted her to do better here.
She defines the word ‘stalking’ for us. Thank God for Captain Webster, Monica Garcia Whatever.
“Stalking is repeatedly driving by and hanging around somebody’s house” Which she admits to doing, repeatedly.
I don’t really think she understands what the word ‘stalking’ means because she proudly points out that she never went into her house, or did anything to her house. Well that’s all well and good, however stalking (which she just defined) means watching, and spying on someone, which was exactly what she was doing.
They proceed to play a video on Heather‘s phone showing the alleged not-stalking, stalking.
The dumb ass even has binoculars. (waiting for her to say she was bird-watching) She even makes a joke about how she’s stalking in the video to whomever is in the car with her (whose face is blurred.)
“Did the FBI tell you to drive by her house?” She kind of whispers to Andy “to catch her drinking and driving.”
Andy is so confused, this is Housewife history right here. And it’s not a compliment to her. We have to stop calling Teresa Guidice the dumbest Housewife.
I think she does the whispering thing when she’s lying.
All of a sudden, she announces that Jen owed her money, and that was part of the not-stalking. But previously she said she was just helping her out as a friend, and she was never an employee.
No one asks her to elaborate on that. The ‘making sure she wasn’t driving drunk as a special favor to the FBI’ seems to be more interesting.
I kind of wanna know how was she was planning on getting her money by sitting in a car outside her house? But never mind. Not important. This brainless wonder is clearly just making shit up as she goes. Also Jen had no money at this time, Thought she was an avid fan??
The girls are cracking up at her outlandish excuses for stalking her. She’s not taking it too kindly, and she’s for sure in over her head.
Meredith isn’t amused for some reason. Actually, she still looks bored shitless. Did anyone notice this? With all of this commotion, she sits here fiddling with her rings, while everyone else is rolling on the floor with laughter, and Monica is going ballistic
I’ve never seen Andy look so perplexed at a reunion before.
She’s all pissed how they’re laughing at her, calls them assholes, then incriminates and discredits herself by saying, “this is why there ‘s a burn book.” Thought the Burn Book was a joke and it was all of your ‘receipts?’
I have to be missing something. She can’t be this stupid. Maybe I’m the idiot for not following.
She was claiming two minutes ago that the FBI told her to spy on Jen, but she’s now saying they didn’t.
They continue laughing as Andy asks additional questions. She stutters and stumbles to explain this shit instead of just saying, yes I was stalking her for the hell of it, and to get dirt for our page. I still don’t know what she was planning on seeing by driving past or sitting outside her house.
Monica – “How is it unbelievable?”
Andy – “Because it doesn’t make sense.”
They tease her if she was planning on pulling her over, and giving her a breathalyzer, or what was the plan if they spied her stumbling to her car with a martini glass in her hand,
And I kind of doubt that Jen would’ve been dumb enough during his period to drive under the influence.
Now Monica screams at them that they’re defending Jen, because they’re questioning her fucking ridiculous stories. No they’re not defending Jen at all. That was so last season.
Heather, usually on point, when she is sitting here freaking out and going off and insisting she did nothing wrong, Heather points out it’s illegal to access someone’s security system, and spy on them.
She looks defeated. She has to be just counting the minutes until this is over.
I think by pointing out her (not) stalking Jen, it shows she’s sneaky, sheisty and was obsessed with all of this Jen drama.
After she gave her statement and info to the FBI of what she knew, I’m pretty sure she was done at that point, and was to go home and move on with her life.
I don’t think it’s a terrible thing to audition to be a Housewife. Why not? But her intentions in doing so are the problem.
If you remember her very first scene she met Angie and Lisa for lunch, and played all nicey-nice, and in her yap, she was really coming for Lisa, claimed she had dirt on her via Jen, and her life is not at all what she portrays.
Heather points out, it’s not trying to get on the show that’s the problem. It’s how calculated and manipulative she was in order to achieve it. Begging to work with Jen, and/or pretending to be her friend, it’s unclear, spying on her via camera footage, and posting disparaging remarks she heard on the footage on social media, is a little disturbing.
Agreed.
“She thinks she’s being iconic, it’s not iconic to be a bully.”
Okay so here we go with what we’ve all been speculating on.
Whether or not she was hired with Bravo knowing she was part of this IG page bullying the ladies.
Andy reassures them they didn’t know. Monica claims on her very first interview, she told casting about the page and her involvement. Andy seems adamant that is not true, because they wouldn’t have cast her in that case.
It’s so hard to believe her at this point. I saw some vids on TikTok from a few of the producers that reassured viewers that they had no idea, and it really did come out, coincidentally, at the time of the finale. I don’t know, It seems awful convenient.
I don’t I think I believe Monica. When she’s lying, she blinks for a long time, and talks low. I think these are also on the list of clues, however not the typical touching her hair or face or looking down.
She was also doing this when she said she was stalking Jen as a favor to the FBI.
Do we even have to discuss this Greek Mafia and Angie’s finances thing? Now that we know what we know? Of course this one sent Meredith the info. Duh.
Angie tells her how it was shitty to go for her marriage and businesses. Since all Monica can say in retaliation is repeat back what she was just told she says “same” even though she is not married nor has a business.
She mixed it up a little bit though. Instead of repeating back verbatum what she was told, she said “same.” Condensed version of Monica Garcia Delgodo Darnell Fowler arguing.
Angie gets pretty riled up, and I would say puts her in her place when Monica brags that she’s ‘all the way down there.’
She doesn’t say anything that’s not true. It was harsh, but she deserves it. She doesn’t know what the word ‘lowbrow’ means, so that needs defined, and she still doesn’t get it, and keeps saying “brown, brown??” accusing Angie of being racist.
******
Oh no, not the black eye!! Andy settle down with the she “shocked the world” by admitting Jen gave her the black eye.
Shocked? No, we were not shocked. Show of hands as to who was shocked?
Did anyone think it was ‘production?’ I saw something on TikTok that there is no way a black eye looks that bad the next day, it usually takes 2 -3 days to get ‘black.’ I don’t know. Did anyone else hear that? So in other words, it was from something that happned before the trip.
Just because we watch Bravo for an hour or two a night does not mean we’re fucking idiots!! We’re not. Well, some are, which I learn from the chat pages, but that’s another story for another day.
Heather, anyone with half of brain, half of one, knew the two of them got into some drunken altercation, and Jen smacked her in the face.
They were both shitfaced that night. Jen is fucking scary, and violent, as we have seen. I’m guessing when Heather was under some tequila influence, in witch you tend to tell the truth, she may have told her she does believe she’s a scammer, was robbing old people on SSI, guilty AF, and enjoy prison bitch! And Jen lost her shit.
He asks her to tell us how it happened. And she proceeds to, not tell us how it happened.
Either she was blacked out drunk, or she’s pretending she was blacked out, and still doesn’t want to divulge the deets.
We’ll never get her subservience to Jen Shah. Nobody gets it. Wouldn’t they have been smarter to admit they got into drunken fight, goofing around and got carried away.
I think the ladies were all saying last season they knew it was Jen. Bravo, it’s not a shock.
I don’t know, what the hell do I know, but insisting Jen didn’t do it, when she was WITH JEN the entire evening, seemed like a dumb fucking idea. Heather claims she was scared of her and that’s why she went with the hardcore cover-up.
Footage is rolled that’s inaudible from security cameras where they were discussing how to handle the sitch. It’s not audible since they weren’t mic’d at the time.
Is it weird there were security cameras in their room? Maybe it was in some sort of common area.
This whole thing isn’t even that interesting, honestly. Unless she spilled entirely how it went down, and what she said that pissed her off, which is still only mildy interesting, can we stop talking about it??
Fucking Jen, in true Jen Shah fashion is denying all of this, as she sits in her fucking prison cell, with her new fellow scammer bestie, and having her posse post shit on social media accusing Heather of lying. Ya can’t make this shit up.
So lemme get this straight. A woman who made a CAREER for YEARS out of lying. Literally, that was her job, to lie to people. Because that’s what scammers do. And then when she gets busted, continues to LIE for two years insisting to the world that she’s completely innocent. But she thinks fans are going to buy that Heather is lying, and she’s again, ‘innocent.’
She profusely apologizes to the girls, the viewers, and Bravo. She gets chastised for her desperate and far-fetched stories such as blaming producers, or a stranger broke into her room, and beat her up while she slept.
Heather isn’t this stupid. I kind of think she was purposely making up outlandish stories, knowing they sounded impossible, thereby letting the public know that it was Jen.
“Should Monica be given the same grace that Heather is requesting for her lies?”
So not the same type of situation, at all. Not to mention, did I miss something? Is Monica sitting here groveling and apologizing (don’t get too excited, ass) to the viewers and the cast?
Andy what?? Like lay off the edibles. They’re rotting your brain. Or lose your boner for Monica.
Heather dismisses this, because, well, it’s ridiculous. She wasn’t going online umpteen times a day announcing that a producer beat her up. Not to mention, everyone knew it was bullshit.
Heather addresses Monica that she was hoping when the page came out, Monica would explain why she did it, and express remorse, and she was seeing similarities in character and behavior to what she experienced with Jen. Monica was also acting like she wanted to be Heather’s friend, and was clearly using her.
I want to point out my new realization in listening to Heather, is how much Monica claims to hate and despise her mother and Jen, but I don’t really hate to say it, her personality and behaviors are very similar.
If she has no respect for those two women, can she blame the others for their opinions of her? The way she screams insults, and seems so hateful and hollow inside, is similar to both of those women.
Andy asks Monica what she thinks of what Heather just shared? Okay well let’s stop you right there, Andy you asked her to ‘think.’ Can’t wait to hear this.
Aaaaaand she doesn’t disappoint. I think maybe Andy was fishing for a semi-sincere apology for her relentless and humiliating posts, and lying about it, but instead she wants to be the victim too, and compete with Heather’s black eye, and claims she suffered physical abuse from Jen as well, and gets online hate from her involvement in Jen’s arrest.
What ??? who in THE hell is on Jen’s side and upset she got convicted of SCAMMING AND STEALING FROM ELDERLY AND/OR POOR PEOPLE?
Ya know, this is exactly what Jen would do when put on the spot, and made to feel like she should be ashamed of her behavior, or needing to apologize. Remember last season??? When she had something pointed out that was hurtful, she announced and started crying that she was in the hospital for three days for trying to off herself.
Am I the only one seeing this shit? Classic victim card when guilty of something.
Whatever, it kind of falls flat. No one responded. Or at least they didn’t air it.
Seemed to have all the impact of her ‘spying on Jen to see if she was driving drunk’ story.
Whitney gets up from all the way over in her third seat and hugs Heather.
While it’s a really sweet gesture, and a good Kodak moment, I wonder how sincere Whitney is being in her empathy towards her. Scale of 1 – 10? 5.
Andy’s still looking for this ‘grace for Monica’ since clearly everything was all Jen’s fault.
Did Monica look distraught in the footage and audio of the stalking episodes? She was looking like she was having a good fucking time.
Let it go Andy, no one is giving her this ‘grace’ aka forgiveness, and again, she’s owning nothing. The dumb bitch has been sitting here denying things that have been recorded! And played!
Wtf, is this a joke? There’s not enough alcohol in the world for this shit.
Andy gives Monica the floor for any final words. Anything she feels she needs to say that she may not have? (like I’m sorry, for instance?)
“No” as she she shakes her head.
Well all righty then!! To quote a previous manager that I had, that started out being cool, then became toxic when another toxic person joined our crew. Story of my life. Mean Girls. I should make a fucking Burn Book.
Why are women like that?? They completely feed off of bad energy and turn into a completely different person.
The ladies look shocked. You’re telling me she couldn’t just for the hell of it, even is she didn’t mean it, for appearances sake, say something like ‘I’m sorry that my actions and involvement in the troll page hurt you guys. I just got sucked in, and took it too far.’
Boom. Possibly she could have been back for another season. She can’t do it. She can’t. Some people just can’t own their shit. It’s always someone else’s fault. She practically rolls her eyes at Whitney for saying she feels let down by her.
I usually roll my eyes at Whitney too, but in this case, she’s right.
She laughs at Heather for her ‘cold and prickly’ being Reality Von Tease and finding out Monica was part of it.
This woman’s gall is off the charts.
Bitch, unless it’s all expenses paid again, you’re never going back to Bermuda with your kids. Maybe there’s a lake or something nearby.
There’s always Only Fans.
I don’t think the farewell cheers beverage, ‘Dark and Stormy’ looks Dark and Stormy.
They’re sort of missing the ‘dark’ part. They’re supposed to be made with dark rum, and ginger beer.
Yeah whoever on the crew that was responsible for this, fucked up. Some 21 year-old intern.
Looks like it’s a glass of white rum and lime.
Andy hates it. It does look terrible.
