Karen gets released, after serving like what? 1/8th of her sentence??
She’s looking a little rough, but you know, there’s no glam in prison, so no shade.
Probably not for lack of trying. Don’t you know who she is??
I’m just hoping she’s going to finally take accountability, but from what I’ve been hearing, she is not.
So seems like Ray was able to keep the rental. Ray, her daughter, son and sister are anxiously waiting to welcome her.
Her fashion vibe is kind of a ‘just released from prison’ look.
I saw a post that you’re not allowed to have extensions in prison, so her claim in the opening scene is being questioned, that her fellow inmates made her braid look from using their own extensions.
Is she trying to sound important? That everyone was catering to her in jail? She’s just so ‘inauthentic.’ Wonder if she read the book, while incarcerated.
Seriously though, in the door for all of 32 seconds, and she’s bragging how the other ladies were catering to her, and literally gave the hair from their head. I can’t.
Her daughter’s not even buying it. Everyone is trying to hug and greet her, but she can’t fucking stop talking about her wonderfulness, and how he other inmates worshipped her.
She throws shade on the prisoners, in order to elevate herself, that were so young and compared them to herself, who it “took 60 years to get here.”
That’s a strange flex, but very Karen.
I guess you can look at it that way, but you can also look at it like at 60, shouldn’t you know better? Twenties is the time you’re supposed to do your dumb shit.
She takes a shower to get the ‘jail’ off of her.
Later that day, guess who arrives? Daddy Andy Cohen.
He loves when the Housewives get in trouble.
As she and Andy begin chatting, she’s quick to let him know she was name-dropping him in jail, and the girls were impressed.
She must have been so fucking annoying.
And it keeps getting worse. She said ‘they’ tried to keep her out of general population, because you know she’s such an important celeb and all, but she INSISTED because “God put her in there for a reason.”
You can see Ray looking embarrassed for her and wants her to just be humble for once. He knows damned well she’s making this shit up.
She claims she was ‘needed’ by the other women (aka the ‘children.’)
I really shouldn’t be floored right now but I kind of am. You can tell Andy’s thinking the same thing.
He doesn’t want to hear it anymore. He changes the subject. He’s already seeing no accountability whatsoever is going to be taken. Her son also seems to have second-hand embarrassment and doesn’t even want his face shown.
She starts talking about her arrest video that “broke the internet.” No, Karen it didn’t break the internet.
What is wrong with her? Again, a weird flex even if it did.
Let’s roll the excuses. Her parents dying several years ago, meds, marriage troubles… Everything but ‘I was out on a date partying, and completely shit faced that night.’
Why Ray sticks around, I have no idea.
That body cam and interrogation video is a lot. She admits she’s ‘lit’ to the cop. That’s funny And how she’s extremely intelligent and Thomas Jefferson’s concubine.
When she said she’s never watched the arrest footage, I full on believe her. Watching it would force her to take accountability.
She refused to watch it, so therefore refused to take a plea deal. She seriously thinks Ray hasn’t watched it?
Here’s the ‘prescription drugs’ excuse. That’s why she took the plea deal? She admits to being in denial, and I can understand that. I don’t think her ego allowed her to watch it.
So no one in her circle prior to the trial strongly suggested she watch it? Or sat her ass down and made her watch it??
Finally, her therapist in rehab forces it on her. But by then it was too late.
She admits to being blacked-out that night. Well, that was clear. She tells Andy she’s now sober.
She admits to her first DUI twenty years ago. She shares that her kids always felt she had a problem with alcohol, as did Ray.
So she blames a family doctor that she went to who said she’s fine, she just needs ‘some pills.’ Anti-depressants I assume.
And there it is. The parents passing. Which I get the sadness, I do, I don’t want to sound like I have a black heart and no soul, but you have to admit it is her go-to a lot in regards to the drinking, when she admitted she’s had a problem long before the passing of her parents, so…
She does verify it was anti-depressants, but for whatever reason refuses to disclose which one? Like who cares. I don’t think Andy was initially even asking for the brand he just wondered what she meant by ‘pills.’
Typical talking-in-circles, Karen Huger.
She claims she could get ‘sued’ for disclosing what type of drug it was?? This woman is clearly not okay. Is she still in therapy? She’s a wacko. Think she needs a different kind of meds. This sounds like the s how last season when she claimed she couldn’t discuss anything about the DUI.
She continues to blame the anti-depressants, and not so much alcohol.
‘The drink never called her’ she claims. She’d rather focus on the anti-depressants as being her main vice.
You do get addicted to those, and it’s hell getting off of them, so I’m not saying I don’t believe her that they were ‘calling’ her.
Andy is confused, as we all are, because as I said, she talks in fucking circles.
He wants her to clarify how it makes sense that she just classified herself an alcoholic, however the ‘drink’ wasn’t calling her.
I don’t even know why she agreed to this interview. She sounds like a bumbling idiot, like liars often sound. Like get your story straight, woman.
She claims she was ‘running from home’ that night. Well, yeah because she had a date.
Wondering if she’s planning on coming clean about who she was with.
Now she’s admitting she and Ray were having marriage troubles at that point, and pretends she’s been ‘very clear’ about that.
No, she hasn’t.
Actually over the past several seasons, she’s been acting like everything is perfect and often referring to him as ‘her best friend’ with no issues whatsoever.
I always know when I hear someone says their spouse is their ‘best friend’ that’s a fucking lie. That’s red flag for you’re putting on an act.
I also have picked up in my many many years on this earth, when someone claims they’re being ‘very clear’ about something, that means they are not being clear, and they know that. It’s like a little kid who thinks you can’t see them if they cover their face.
Anyway, now because she needs an excuse as to why she was inebriated that night, she admits that things have actually been not so perfect with Ray.
They’ve been together a long time. There’s nothing wrong with saying you’re not getting along. Now she’s forced to admit that.
I’m rambling, sorry. I just can’t stand people that put on this fake persona constantly. And they’re always too dumb to realize that people see right through that shit. Maybe there’s a chapter in the ‘authentic’ book about that.
Anyway, I think it’s funny how she said she must have been “out of it” to have driven that night.
Yeah, Karen ya WERE out of it. It’s called being drunk.
Hence wrapping your car around a tree, hence getting arrested. This woman needs help. More help.
She doesn’t drink and drive, she says. Does she hear this idiocy? I thought she was going to blame the xannies.
Andy points out that’s a strange comment when she’s had four DUI’s.
She corrects him that it’s only two. I mean, even two. But I’m pretty sure there are reports of four. She’s just somehow managed to get out of them over the years.
Not the “let’s be clear” thing again.
So there were four incidents, not four actual DUI charges. So, like I said, she got out of two. And it’s really not ‘clear’ unless she’s elaborating on the other two, which she’s not.
And the fact that the first one was twenty years ago, that’s great Karen, but as a raging alcoholic who tended to go out to drink, you’ve probably been driving drunk a lot during that time, just didn’t wreck or get caught until a few years ago. And there were the two ‘incidents’ in between.
She was shocked she got a six-year sentence. She thought she was getting a month or two.
Her arrogance probably had a lot to do with that.
She claims her sentence got reduced because she took full responsibility.
Okay.
So now I guess she and Ray are back to a good place? They worked on their marriage while she was in jail. I guess the separation was probably good, right? If that’s what you call ‘working on it.’
You know I have read and heard that when you have a traumatic experience at a younger age, you stop maturing at that time. She had a sexual assault at age 19. That halting of further maturing is probably what is contributing to her inflated ego. She’s actually insecure, so uses this delusion and arrogance as a defense mechanism.
I think the something similar may have happened to me because I was in a very very, extremely volatile and abusive marriage, coincidentally, beginning at age 19.
I don’t have an inflated ego over it. I didn’t turn into a narcissist who live in my own reality, because it had the opposite effect on me. I had really low self-esteem from being told I was stupid and worthless for twenty years.
One or two things she’s saying does actually make sense. A lot does not.
I didn’t hear her mention who she was with that night. Maybe that question is coming.
Andy starts to recognize her dancing around and making light of the alcohol aspect of her issues, and wanting to focus on the pills.
She seems to be in the zone, and taking on that convincing soothing tone she tends to do, of rambling and trying to,confuse the listener, where you even question yourself if YOU’RE the one confused. But no, we’re not confused.
Andy steps up and asks for clarification.
I feel like she wasn’t prepared for him to really make her take accountability.
Some may say she is, and she kind of is, but not really.
She’s gotten very good at this over the years, clearly.
That question forces her to admit it was an issue, and it’s not really about the xannies. I feel like she can shift blame if she focuses on that, because her doctor prescribed those.
Actually she does say that. I literally wrote that before I even heard her say it. Yay me. I feel like I’m somehow in the mind of Karen Huger. I guess all the Housewife watching, and being able to tell when they’re lying and full of shit.
Andy asks if she thinks she has an issue with drinking. Do you notice she’s saying she ‘did’ think that, not she ‘does’ think that? And she ‘had’ a drinking problem?
I thought even when you become sober, you still say you ARE an alcoholic. I’ve seen enough movies and Bravo to know that.
Andy asks that specifically, and she does NOT say yes to that. She gives word vomit instead.
She’s attending AA, so do the math. Also NA, which she prefers. Of course she does. I feel like since that wasn’t her true vice and issue, that might not really be helping her.
Who cares where she got her clothes to leave jail in. And the food. Of course the food sucks. It’s jail.
First she said she ate chicken, then she says she didn’t when Andy points out on the show she referred to chicken as ‘dirty birds’ and didn’t want to eat it anymore under the advice of someone.
This woman is fucking nuts. Literally denying she said something two seconds after she says it, WHILE BEING FILMED.
I forgot how she conveniently went to rehab last season RIGHT when the reunion was being filmed, since I believe she had her conviction at that time.
Forty years of alcoholism and FINALLY goes to rehab when she has to own it to the Bravoverse.
And remember that stupid clip that was filmed of her and Ray completely performing, and acting like everything was fine, and it was no big deal.
I think viewers really just want her to completely own all of this, and apologize for misrepresenting herself. It just will never happen.
The fact that she took a trial, that alone proves she didn’t think she did anything wrong.
Andy plays some clips of the reunion last season when her conviction was addressed. She’s pissed at what they’re saying. Those lips are pursed.
She says she never watched this, and I believe her. She didn’t want to hear it. She reminds me a lot of Shannon on OC.
Ashley had disclosed that a local journalist had reached out to her and said there was someone else in the car, that was possibly driving.
Perhaps there was someone in the car that did not want to be seen. I’m not a judge, but if he was indeed the driver, that would have cleared her right? It’s not illegal to be a drunk passenger.
So they roll the body com clip of Karen awkwardly muttering to Ray that someone “hopped out of the car.” That’s kind of funny, if she went to jail to cover for the dude she was banging that night. She said something about it being security that Ray hired. So she was banging the security guy? That’s not shocking. Wasn’t she also banging her driver, allegedly? Wasn’t that Blue Eyes?
I’m wondering if this was brought up in court. It seems kind of pertinent.
She pulls a ‘Meredith Marks’ and claims she didn’t understand the question. That’s not an obvious excuse to get out of answering.
Seemed pretty clear to me.
Let me help you Karen.
a) Was there a guy in the car with you?
b) Did he take off when the wreck occurred?
c) If so, who was it, and why did he take off?? Especially if he was the one driving (I’m assuming they were both inebriated.)
The $64,000 question. Where exactly was she that evening and who was she with?
I hate to defend a man, but this had to be so awkward for Ray that night.
‘Drinks with friends’ was her alibi, but that seems to have been a total lie.
Ashley shares her train ride experience to New York for the reunion, and of course because she’s Ashley, starting chatting with a man sitting nearby, who coincidentally knows of Karen being a regular at the restaurant where he worked, frequently getting very drunk. Hopefully not driving.
Wendy also shares a similar conversation she had with someone corroborating this. At a different spot though.
Karen is pretty stoic during all of this. So much for her wanting to concentrate only on the alleged anti-depressants issue. I don’t even know if that’s an ‘NA’ thing or not is it?
Andy wants reaction. So she does actually admit to the guy that Ashley spoke to, as being correct. But it was twenty years ago, she’s quick to point out.
I get that is quite a long time ago, however, the problem is nothing seems to have changed.
Wendy’s story, she didn’t name the establishment, not sure why, Karen denies. Probably since this is a more recent occurrence.
She also emphatically denies that anyone was in the car. Well Karen, you were slurring quite a bit, but you did say it. If indeed he was driving drunk, it’s pretty admirable she took the fall for it.
Another reunion clip is played, where she thanked some of the others for their support, and didn’t include Wendy, when they supposedly had a ‘Housewife’ friendship at that time, which as we know is typically not a real friend anyway. Wendy is salty.
Karen claims Wendy knows why she was not thanked for her support nor mentioned.
Andy asks, why should she be brought back and why does she deserve another chance? For one thing she probably needs the money.
I mean I don’t think Bravo is above criminals, Andy. Not to mention the white ladies who got DUI’s – Gina and Shannon on OC, came back the following season, no problem. Can you imagine the backlash if Karen wasn’t?? Let’s be real.
She drove drunk. She’s not a murderer or a rapist.
Thank God she hit a tree, and not another car.
Andy asks her if she blames the show for anything, and she doesn’t.
She didn’t really clarify who she was with or where she was, other than insisting that no one else was with her in the car.
Andy didn’t point blank ask that either. I thought he was going to after he rolled the Reunion footage.
I guess we’ll never know. I wonder if she was given one ‘demand’ and that was what she she didn’t want discussed.
She eludes to a possible split between her and Ray. It seems weird for him to stick around at this point when it’s pretty evident she’s been cheating on him for many years. I don’t know, maybe he doesn’t care??
Now they’re a work in progress. For the past four or five season he was the perfect partner, they were in total marital bliss and ‘best friends.’
Earlier she said they were in a good place, now she seems to be contradicting that. Liars contradict themselves. Not surprising.
Andy should be questioning that, but maybe he feels like she was hard enough on her. They are supposed to be sharing their ‘real’ lives.
One thing she can’t do is not live in reality. Okay Karen.
That’s kind of what you’ve been doing for several years, so… pretty sure you CAN do that. You’ve been saying your marriage and life are perfect and you have no issue with alcohol. Guess she should have said ‘what I can’t do ANYMORE, is not live in reality.’
This lady is in her own fucking world. She’s nothing if she’s not entertaining. She’s learned nothing. I foresee her continuing to drink. She’s all over the place and contradicting herself.
Andy points out he agrees that she was in denial, with all due respect of course.
Andy, she still is, with all due respect.
She thanks him for allowing her to be the “author of her truth.”
We still don’t know who she was with that night. Just saying. That’s the truth she wants to leave out I guess.
