The Lindsay Carl very serious discussion as they’re dressed as aliens, about him not having a job continues.
I wish she’d stop telling him how it’s a ‘turn on’ for her if he has some ‘hustle’ or business. Clearly that’s not helping. And that’s not really the point of having a career or job. Again another missed opportunity for Carl to mention how hard she went last year at suggesting he leave Loverboy.
I think she was trying really hard not to be an asshole in that conversation, so I guess she deserves some credit. However, if you have to really concentrate and try to not be an asshole, you’re probably an asshole.
By the way, did you all see her on WWHL last night? I had to laugh, even though it wasn’t funny. It really was sad.
Andy gave her five chances to express something that she ‘learned about herself’ watching the episodes. She made jokes, then for #1 said she learned to “not ignore red flags.” Andy looked shocked. I’m sure he at least hoped, like the viewers, she might own the taking drugs accusations. At the very least.
Carl had red flags? Perhaps he has some, I’m not disputing that, but holy shit woman, pot calling the kettle black. This reunion is going to be something if she’s going to sit there and cry victim and play fucking dumb.
By the way, I just came across a post online that she may be pregnant to this new dude. She’s determined to hang onto this one, so what better way, than a baby?
That always works.
I still don’t get how this convo went so left so fast between Danielle and Gabby.
I still don’t get how they both want this balloon head loser. Is he even THAT cute? He doesn’t look like a complete toad, but he’s not all that.
She tells Gabby she’s not flirty enough and she’s already ‘laid the groundwork’ on Balloon Guy so forget that. She sounds like a desperate ho, not cute and flirty, like she thinks. There’s a difference.
Ciara continues to tease on West. You know it’s starting to boil down to what seems obvious to me that she’s not really attracted to him, but is trying hard to be. Her manager guy seems to like him.
So Gabby decides she’s really pissed at Danielle for trying to make her feel bad for not acting like Danielle acts, like a filthy fucking ho, and starts to vent to the others.
Paige tries to explain to her that Gabby is upset, who is now starting to hyperventilate over this.
Here’s my take, not that you asked. I’m just saying if some chick were ‘accusing’ me of not being a fucking tramp like she is, I would be taking it as a compliment.
I honestly didn’t think that guys preferred disgusting tramps that sleep around, but I’ve been proven wrong on that one. Who knew.
This “as a founder and CEO…” comment of Danielle’s that she says to Paige, has been getting plenty of attention and ridicule. As we recall, she quit her corporate job about three years ago, and was developing this ‘fashion app’ (have you SEEN how she dresses, she’s not queen of fashion.)
I thought maybe it was something similar to Poshmark or Depop, where you buy and sell used items. So I did some digging and the name of the app is ‘Donne.’ Here is the link in which there is little to no info.
It seems strange, and I’m not sure it’s going to be anything. It’s supposed to help you organize and put together outfits. I would think that most ‘fashionista’ types don’t need a robot to tell them what to wear or how to coordinate an outfit. It supposedly isn’t even up and running yet, and you have to be approved to join.
It’s very exclusive you know.
You notice she doesn’t seem to talk about it ever. All she’s been talking about this season is getting some dick.
Her ‘founder and CEO’ analogy made no sense as it pertains to Gabby and that situation.
Danielle calls it dumb and refuses. She looks like a Teletubbie.
Does Paige realize she only has one alien contact in?
Gabby is suddenly over her meltdown as fast as it started.
Ciara and Paige love when it’s time to tell all of the non-famous low-life nobodies that it’s time to leave the parties.
Ciara runs around yelling “Get out, get out!” She should sit down. If she was not close with Paige, she would be one of these nobody filler people too. She’s boring AF, and has been doing absolutely nothing career-wise since moving to New York.
Danielle trying to get with this guy is CA- RINGE. She doesn’t even make him work for it.
They discuss what to do next, and he keeps repeating “you’re the boss, tell me what we’re doing.” Seriously she needs her to tell him?
At this point, pretty sure he’s picking up on her being a sure thing, and he’s just doing the dance.
She thinks this is flattering, that some random guy wants to fuck her.
I guess it’s not hard for her to get guys to fuck her.
Dudes would fuck a tree. Balloon guy isn’t coming off as being very bright to me.
So he did say to her, what I thought he said , when I watched Thursday. She moved really fast up them there steps after that offer was dropped. Kind of surprised they aired that, but we are getting really raunchy on Bravo as of late.
At least Jesse Solomon had the decency to cover the camera up. Girlfriend is not being shy. She peels her clothes RIGHT off. Hopefully I’ll be able to unsee that at some point.
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It’s morning and she approaches Gabby and delivers a flimsy sort of apology. Actually did she even say she was sorry?
I’m assuming last night, she was getting extremely defensive because it was Paige trying reason with her. I think her stance was ‘I’m not going to say I’m sorry, because Paige is telling me to.’ How hard was it to walk into the bathroom and say ‘hey sorry I think my delivery was a little off…’
But, you know, she was on a mission.
Gabby explains to this fucking trollop that SHE does have standards, and wants to like and get to know the person that she’s hooking up with.
Danielle’s like “oh okay NOW I get it, you know I don’t have those silly standards.” I paraphrased but that’s the gist of it.
The girl has no fucking shame. She should team up with this other ugly ho I know.
Kyle really wants to go to Montauk , and he seems excited. He’s walking around to everyone asking “are you feeling Montauk?” They’re all seems in except for Paige and Amanda.
It’s a little too much activity for Amanda two days in a row. Carl tells Kyle that he’s not pushing it, or she won’t get out of bed until Wednesday. Kyle is sweet and really wants to just spend time with her, and she could care less.
So these two start discussing Carl and Lindsay’s no job chat last night. It seemed like it was his weekly report to his boss.
Carl’s funny the way he says “she’s like really worried I don’t have, like, a job.”
Even though Lindsay is insufferable, you do see her point. But also he DID have a job. I’m just pointing that out. Again.
I don’t really think in that convo Lindsay said ‘I want to be a stay at home mom for the rest of my life.’ Unless it got edited out, she didn’t even use the term ‘stay-at-home-mom.’
Usually when a woman says that she means that she never wants to work again, ever (that would be Amanda.) She was pointing out, that after giving birth she’s not wanting to worry about the rent so she can take some time off. I can see where she was coming from in this particular convo.
Carl thinks he does have hustle and he’s ‘working on stuff.’ Apparently he has some brand deals, but not doing as well as she is. He downplays her influencing gig, and says “that’s not a career.” And says she’s doing better because she’s a woman.
He even drops their year-to-dates doing their brand deals.
Carl’s coming in at 70g and Lindsay at 150. I get the impression they’re kind of competitive by this statement.
He seems annoyed she closed her PR firm. I was surprised at that actually. Last season I was assuming they were riding the Bravo train, and doing fine income-wise with that even though it’s not recommended to bank on that, since she quit doing PR, and ordered Carl to leave Loverboy.
Fast forward to summer 2023, and this doesn’t seem to be the case. It almost seems like she was hoping to depend on him financially, and vice versa. Maybe he thought he could just do PR with her.
Another thing I found funny about this convo is how hypocritical it is for Kyle to be doling out advice on this matter. First of all, he’s constantly bitching at Amanda for not doing enough, and not working hard, so he should be seeing where Lindsay is coming from, actually.
Second of all, when he says “sounds like a conversation most couples would have had” when Carl references the ‘stay at home mom’ thing.
Dude take a seat. You and Amanda were ready to fucking kill each other the summer before you got married, to the point where the girls were trying to talk her out of going through with the wedding. He also didn’t bring up wanting a prenup until like a month before. Since he waited so long to present that, it never got done. That’s a conversation that should had been already had.
With no prenup, Amanda will have him by the balls when she divorces him in a few years. Especially since she seems to be under the impression the whole company was her idea, and has been keeping it afloat for the past five years??
The girl who likes to lie on the couch all day and do nothing.
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This Old Navy scene, really? Of all of the stores in New York City to buy clothes, Old Navy??
Whatever, I’m assuming and hoping this was an endorsement type of thing. So these bitches not only are getting paid by Bravo to stand here and convince Amanda that she should quit working for Loverboy, but also by Old Navy?
Why is everyone telling Kyle’s people that they need to quit. Poor Kyle.
Ciara fills Paige and Amanda in or Montauk, which there doesn’t really seem to be much to fill in. Just that she still didn’t fuck West. I guess it was an overnight thing.
I forgot Ciara hated Gabby, until that was mentioned on WWHL Thursday night, and not for any particular reason. I honestly think she has a strong preference for white people, romantically, and in her friend circle. Which is fine, but I wish she would just say that.
They get her up to speed on Gabby’s and Danielle’s stupid argument, that got overblown perhaps due to alcohol. I don’t think either one was shitfaced, but even buzzing you can have an exaggerated reaction to something, or be more blunt than your normally would.
This convo gets more focused on Amanda getting all in her feelings about Danielle walking away from her when she tried to speak to her, and not being taken seriously.
It seemed by that point, Danielle was just over it, and didn’t need Amanda repeating the same exact shit that Paige just lectured her on.
And who cares what Danielle thinks. She’s proving herself to be a fucking slut with a shit load of insecurity issues, so she needs duded to fuck her so she feels validated. Amanda really cares what someone like that thinks about her??
I wouldn’t care what someone like that thinks about me, believe me. And I don’t.
So I’m guessing, by this scripted convo, that Amanda is fishing for a bathing suit endorsement??
This sounds a lot like Lindsay telling Carl last season he was too important and talented to work for Kyle. And we see how that turned out. I can see if Kyle was some kind of tyrant to work for, but I’m not seeing that at all.
Amanda is very low energy and is not capable of running shit. I can just see it, she’d be pushing all of the workload onto Kyle, who’s running his own company, and taking care of two households.
This pep talk is nice, but I’m wondering what the ulterior motive is? To get her all riled up to go home and resent Kyle, more than she already does? Get her a Victoria’s Secret deal??
When they flash on this ‘keeping Loverboy afloat’ convo, Amanda actually said they used her income for living expenses, when he was first starting the business, and she still had her job. That’s not the same as keeping the company afloat.
Paige claims Amanda created the entire brand?? What? Since when? He already had this going when they met. I don’t think designing the cartons which I said last year, looked exactly like the old Barbie logo, right down to the pink and purple, is ‘creating the entire brand.’
I would have loved to see Kyle’s face when this was airing. Hopefully Amanda prepared him for the fact she’s taking credit for his business.
I’m all for lifting women up, but we also shouldn’t lie to them either.
Ciara asks her if she has an identity outstide of Loverboy and Kyle. What in the hell??
Paige claims she can envision her running a business or managing a photo shoot and people asking ‘what’s Amanda Batula’s take on that?’ Well first we would have to peel Amanda Batula off of the couch. Especially on a Monday.
What a bunch of bull shit. This girl is NOT a mover and a shaker, no matter how much you want her to be.
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Carl heads to the Jersey shore to see his mom and stepdad and vent about Lindsay.
I kind of do see her point she made on WWHL that Carl was talking to everyone else but her about his concerns. Does she not know she’s extremely unapproachable though?
And it’s not like people with NPD can reflect on their behavior, and learn from it.
The definition of crazy (or narcissism, kind of same thing, those mother fuckers are off in looney land) is doing the same thing over, and over, and over, and expecting different results.
Carl reflects on this summer as kind of a last hurrah before he gets married and starts a family with Lindsay.
When his mom asks if he feels ready for that, he says yes, and immediately covers his mouth, which is the classic body language tick for not being truthful. He didn’t want have kids with Lindsay, at all. And can you blame him?
He confides in them about Lindsay’s behavior once she starts getting tipsy, as being somewhat aggressive. He was happy when she was doing the sober thing to support him when they were first seeing each other, but that all came to a halt when filming resumed in the following summer.
Not to be super nosy but I am really curious about this argument around Memorial Day, when he left for Pittsburgh to see them, because he needed to get away from her. Whatever, went down, the word ‘abusive’ is being tossed around in reference to her behavior.
I know Carl is 7 feet tall, and I doubt she could hurt him with her bare hands, but perhaps there was something else involved, or it could mean she said terrible things to him. We know she has a habit of doing that, and thinking nothing of it. He’s right – abusive partners HATE when you confide in people about their horrible behavior, because why?
Oh, I know, it’s very simple, because they’re embarrassed about it.
But if they’re embarrassed about it, one would think they would want to take the steps to find the tools to keep themselves from constantly displaying the bad behavior. Especially displayed towards someone they claim to love and want to marry.
Stepdad chimes in with the obvious – getting married is not going to resolve issues in a relationship. It only makes things worse in fact, and it does not seem like they are in a healthy place at this time.
He was a minister and tells him he wouldn’t marry them based on the things that he is telling them. You don’t have to be a minster to see these two didn’t need to be getting married, and that Carl was extremely unhappy.
You know can I just say, I don’t recall them as being ‘best friends.’ is that being somewhat embellished? They seem to love to say that. Carl feels torn with this now being so close to the wedding (three months) and all of the plans are now made and money spent, etc etc etc.
This conversation clearly did have an impact on him. Thursday on WWHL, Lindsay said she noticed a shift in his behavior after this visit.
Sometimes ya just do need someone to be brutally honest with you, and say what a lot are thinking.
Carl is being accused, I’m seeing a lot of social media stuff, of going into filming in July planning on breaking off the engagement at the end of the summer, and purposely did all of this ‘dropping bread crumbs’ to show viewers he was justified and making Lindsay out to be the villain.
People, no one needs to MAKE her look like a villain. She does that all on her own.
Looks like on the preview some of the girls are seeing what I have been picking up on about Jesse Solomon being kind of a disrespectful pig. So tiring always being so right.
