So how cute is it that Jesse Solomon and West have hit it off?
It’s hard to believe they really didn’t know each other at all. That’s the story they’re going with right? They have such a bromance going.
Ciara’s and West’s date went well. Hopefully he stopped sweating at some point. I kind of of like them together. She needs someone goofy to help her come out of her ‘serious’ shell, and make her laugh.
The happy couple (that was sarcasm) arrive first to the house with Lindsay clearly having the hostile ‘tude we know and love her for. Just kidding. Anyone that ‘loves’ her is clearly not a together person.
She complains in her yap that she’s sick of being around him. Yet, she wants to marry him.
I’m sick of her bitching about his non-employment. She encouraged him to quit Loverboy without a Plan B. Guess she’s regretting that now. Maybe she shouldn’t have convinced him that Kyle was horrible, simply because she was having an issue with him and Amanda at the time. She had him convinced that Amanda saying “Carl works for us…” while complimenting his accomplishments, was somehow offensive. That’s the power of a manipulative person.
As soon as the others arrive, Lindsay immediately,: “Let’s get a drink!”
I love how West can make fun of himself. He admits to his extreme perspiration issue on his date with Ciara. I guess if you’re a girl, it’s kind of a compliment that your dude is sweating bullets being on a date with you. But then there is the issue of the actual – sweat.
Kyle and Amanda arrive – dogless this week. I guess Danielle will be happy since she was SO annoyed last weekend for some reason by their dogs.
Maybe West wouldn’t be so sweaty if he didn’t wear sweatshirts in July?
Lindsay seems to be vibing with the girls, which is good news. Perhaps it will curtail her heavy drinking due to feeling anxious about interacting with a group of people who can’t really stand her.
Carl tells Kyle how Lindsay shot down his sober sports bar idea. Maybe I shouldn’t speak on something I don’t know that much about, but I really think Lindsay shouldn’t be getting hammered around Carl. It would be different if he were a longtime sober person, but that’s not the case.
This episode really does demonstrate that she also has a problem with alcohol.
They’re only on appetizers, and she’s buzzing. She’s overdoing her ‘cheers’ moment by laying it on a little too thick about how happy to be is to be around everyone, and loving the camaraderie. She doesn’t realize everyone is just tolerating her. She insults Carl’s infamous bark, then drains her glass. Who the hell drinks martini’s like that? Oh, I know, alcoholics.
And I don’t like her outfit. It’s long sleeves, and it’s summer. That just bugs me.
You can see Carl looking annoyed that she orders another. It’s like she thinks she needs to drink for her and Carl.
In Paige’s absence, Jesse Solomon gets chastised by the girls for ‘touching her leg.’ He claims he’s not after her since having a boyfriend is “an unnecessary obstacle.” That sort of contradicts what he said earlier, but okay whatever. Seems like when he was put on the spot about it he changed his tune. Especially since he was told Craig would be joining the house the following weekend.
Amanda decided to head back to the house instead of going out. I think she needed a Kyle break. Or she’s just exhausted from doing nothing all day.
Carl and Lindsay arrive home walking in the door separately, so here we go.
He refuses to unzip her. Apparently she again accused him of being on drugs.
First two weekends, and they’re arguing non-stop. Lindsay is such a fucking dysfunctional human.
Wouldn’t you, if you were her, at least TRY really hard to show everyone your relationship, while not perfect, is at least stable after all of the backlash they were getting the previous summer?
She’s not capable of acting normal. She might really want to, but can’t. Not to beat a dead horse, or a dead relationships, but this is her third failed stab at it since this series has started. And all have been tumultuous and combative. But it’s not her.
Carl had a front row seat for all of it. It kind of makes it difficult to feel bad for him, but I still do. He was fooled by a master manipulator. When they first started dating, she was supporting his sobriety journey by also not drinking and working out with him, (not to be rude but when I saw her in a bathing suit, looks like that stopped too) and was doing all of the things that narcissists do in a new relationship to reel you in and then, and it may even be subconsciously, pull the switcheroo.
She’s slurring and it’s easy to see she’s pretty drunk. Apparently she got super irked that he wanted to leave after dinner, so she started drilling him as to what was wrong. Lindsay, nothing was ‘wrong.’ If he doesn’t drink he has no reason to go ‘clubbing.’ Also aren’t some of them past the ‘clubbing’ age range? Such as Kyle, Lindsay, Carl, Danielle…?? Like go back to the house, make a fire, make some drinks there and chill. Take a midnight swim.
It’s getting to be an issue with these two that the fights are starting in the Lyft rides (hello, Lyft drivers – where are you? Spill it.) We learned on VPR that the driver from THE night of the Raquel and Sandoval revelation, had zero clue as to who they were, and what was going on. Maybe this is the same situation.
“What are you on?” seems to be her go-to. We all see how this dude does not appear to be under any type of substance or alcohol influence whatsoever.
She’s the one that’s shitfaced, and demanding to know what HE is on. She lives in an ulterior universe, as narcissists do. Their judgment is so clouded, as to what is actually happening in reality.
And of course, projecting. So typical.
To a newly sober person, this has to be so damaging and hurtful.
But again, he knew what he was signing up for.
So I guess he’s doing the ‘California sober’ thing and smoking weed. Okay, no judgment. It’s a plant. It’s legal. He lives with Lindsay Hubbard. He needs something to relax at the end of the day. Literally, at the end of the day. I don’t get the impression he’s sitting around smoking weed all day long.
Speaking of VPR, she refers to Carl as ‘Sandoval.’
We gotta stop the constant ‘gas lighting’ rhetoric. What we have going on now is the ‘gas lighters’ accusing their partners of gas lighting, and it turns into a big old circle jerk, and being in an endless argument with a narcissist who literally accuses you of doing every single thing that they do. And we should stop using gas lighting altogether, actually, unless you’re using it correctly. It’s not a replacement for ‘provoking.’
If they cheat, then you’re a cheater, if they’re abusive, then you’re abusive, if they lie about everything, then you lie about everything, if they poke and provoke, then YOU poke and provoke.
It’s a viscous cycle and fucking frustrating way to live. Carl was smart enough to get out when he did. But he still did waste two years of his life on this train wreck of a human.
Anywho they each accuse each other of ‘picking a fight.’ That sounds familiar.
Since Amanda stayed back, she’s stuck with Lindsay bitching to her about Carl.
She does not like it when Carl points out her excessive drinking. And she does ‘the thing’ and turns the accusation around on him.
Like it’s funny how these abusers lack any creativity. They can’t even accuse you of one of your ACTUAL faults. It’s like they’re PeeWee Herman. “I know you are, but what am I?” They sound like fuck tards.
But, they do it, because they know it’s frustrating. And if you’re frustrated, you’re defensive, if you’re defensive, you’re agitated, if you’re agitated, you’re probably raising your voice. Then what happens?? Oh you’re ‘yelling and crazy.’
And then you question yourself, “AM I crazy??”
She claims to Amanda she sees a side of him that no one else has seen. She’s not comprehending that she is so frustrating and abusive that she’s bringing out the worst in him.
Nobody is perfect, but some people are more imperfect than others.
Carl is in bed wide awake. He knows she’s down there bitching about him, but he smartly does not engage.
Everyone arrives home and sees that they’re sleeping separately. I hope their apartment has more than one bedroom because we are seeing this is a regular occurrence.
Does anyone else keep thinking about her claiming she was ‘blindsided’ by him calling off the wedding? Blindsided. Like they can’t even get through one fucking night out without her getting shit faced and having some blow-out over absolutely nothing.
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Carl in his yap, tries to explain the chain of events. It boils down to her volatile behavior when she drinks. Come on, Lindsay, be a happy drunk!! Life is too short to not be a happy drunk.
Jesse Solomon who just met these people, he doesn’t give a fuck, points out to him, you’ve known her for all of these years, so this is what you signed up for.
Well, he explains, he thought as she matured, and their relationship matured, for some reason she would be different with him. No bro. I thought that too. Actually they tend to get worse as they ‘mature.’
I actually think these two are the cutest and happiest couple in the house. People, this is how it’s done!
Carl and Lindsay ignore each other in the am. Their presence is just so tense, and makes everyone around them also awkward.
Poor Amanda is stuck with Lindsay griping again, since she followed her out to pool. She admits they frequently have these blow-outs and it usually has to do with her drinking. She seems to care more about her Rose’ than she does her relationship.
She has no qualms whatsoever in admitting to Amanda she drills him about his sobriety. As if that’s okay. She’s so painfully unaware. If he questions her alcohol, then she can question his smoking, even if he’s not smoking. Okay PeeWee Herman.
She just admitted to what I said this type of person does when confronted, simply tells you that you’re doing what they’re doing. What a lack of imagination. And intelligence.
And I just want to point out, if he’s smoking a joint, it’s not the same as slamming down ten drinks. If he was getting stoned all day long, then that’s different.
You can even see as Amanda is trying to reason with her, that she’s just not receiving anything. Her eyes are black and dead.
Narcissists are miserable and dead hollow people.
Carl comes out as they’re talking and does a bizarre pencil dive into the pool. It’s like he’s ten and trying to get her attention.
I think Carl and Lindsay’s dysfunction is bringing Kyle and Amanda closer. Any couple has to feel superior to those two.
Carl fills the guys in with his version, which again, I would go with the sober person’s version over the drunk person’s.
It seems like the poor guy can’t do anything right. Poor Carl, I feel for him. He’s trying so hard.
Gotta do another wardrobe comment on Lindsay. That green dress she’s wearing is hideous. It makes her look like she weighs 400 pounds. Why does no one but me know that with dresses like that, (unless you do weigh 400 pounds) they look so much better if you just belt them. Maybe she chose this so Carl would stay pissed off,
Lindsay, totally NOT an alcoholic, is drinking half of a bottle of Rose in her room alone, before they head out to drink all day.
Fucking Gabby is sounding like a numb skull, so desperately trying to blame their fights on ‘wedding planning.’ I don’t think fucking wedding planning has even been mentioned? How stupid.
Meanwhile boring yawn-fest Ciara is getting all pissy about West telling people ‘their business.’ Their business being that they made out. This girl can’t let herself be happy. Just go with the flow, girl. Fuck. Put on the Carmen outfit — PAHLEASE !!!
She scowls in her yap, and is rethinking things over this. Because he told people that they kissed. Ya can’t make this shit up.
I wish Carl would just like not even give a shit when Lindsay is acting all Lindsay.
He’s walking around like “what did she say? Is she going to approach me or should I be the one?”
Dude, grow a pair. Kyle says that he’ll try to find out. They sound like they’re in high school.
Kyle and Amanda do that thing again, getting all gloaty and smug about how great their marriage is since they’re around a barely functioning couple. They MIGHT be forgetting how they practically killed each other the summer before they were getting married. Whatever. I actually gave them two years tops, which would have been last summer, so guess they’re doing okay.
Carl can’t stand it anymore and approaches her. They talk, and Lindsay hears nothing.
It sounds like she became irritated that he wanted to not go out after dinner. Even if you’re someone that’s never experienced getting sober, you do have to see how hard it is for a person that doesn’t drink to go out to a club and be surrounded by people drinking.
It goes back to the Lyft convo again. I believe Carl, that she did call him a liar. It’s funny when that comes up, and she doesn’t have an explanation, she says “why are you yelling?”
Why does Kyle drink such girly drinks? An Aperol spritz? Seriously?
Lindsay goes back to the gang telling everyone he was “screaming at her.” Which he wasn’t.
I’m glad to see Amanda got new jean shorts this summer. Danielle is dressed odd again, in dress slacks, to hang outside, drinking, in July.
Back at the house, there’s a series of doors closing and opening, walking in and out of rooms pretending they don’t see each other. It’s so hard to watch.
Gabby, who somehow got stuck with being her designated friend, tries to reason with her, and she gets pissed off, walking out the door repeating, “I can’t.”
Yes Lindsay, we know you can’t. Apparently you ‘can’t’ open the gate.
So she’s planning on walking down the street in the Hamptons in this horrid green tent dress?? Nice. Love that for her.
