Lindsay and Paige have been yelling at each other for the past week, it seems.
Let’s see who tires out first.
Danielle looks intrigued. Ciara and Mya look bored. I just realized Mya is dressed like Princess Jasmine.
Destination wedding in November of this year. So kind of soon. You know how it goes from June to Thanksgiving in what seems like four seconds.
I’m sure it’s a televised thing with Bravo paying the tab. At least I’m assuming that. Shady Andy wants to know who on the couches will NOT be invited. I would say, if it’s for TV all of them, if not, Paige and Danielle will NOT be on the very elite guest list.
Paige and Danielle smirk as Carl explains the very intricate process of making their guest list. I can’t fathom they even have that many people to invite. They might want to include people that they hate just to fill up chairs. Or maybe they should just do a cheesy Vegas thing.
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Kyle and Carl. So I’m not clear, is Carl still working for Loverboy?? they never do clarify that, and last week Paige said neither one of them have jobs.
Flash on all of the scenes of Kyle at odds with Lindsay and Carl.
“What is current status of friendship?”
Why do they keep zooming in on Chris’ face? Clearly he’s bored shitless, and pretty sure he’s not returning. He was like the Alex of last season. I don’t know why they’re having such a hard time finding dudes that fit in with this crew, and have some game and personality.
Anyway, Kyle responds with talking about Carl’s work role, and how it converted with the growth of Loverboy, and brags that he gave him leeway due to his personal struggles, and maybe mold his position into what worked for him. He felt like he took advantage of him, and Carl’s complaints conveniently coincided with his relationship with Lindsay.
He claims it wasn’t Lindsay’s influence, but I don’t think I believe it. She doesn’t like Kyle nor Amanda, so I can see her blowing every minor occurrence out of proportion, and making him feel like he was being treated unfairly.
You would think she’s be happy having a decent job, in the event their endorsements and Bravo money comes to a halt. Bravo could decide tomorrow to cancel Summer House, fire them, or start over with a new younger crew, and then what? They might need real jobs.
It seems like Kyle and Amanda are buying it, and Amanda tells him to apologize to Lindsay.
No, Kyle probably shouldn’t have announced to the world that Carl showed up coked out at work and forgot his computer. He is clean and sober now, so that makes it not quite so embarrassing, but still, that was kind of personal. I think the point he was trying to make is, since they are friends, he has made exceptions, didn’t fire him for this, and really tried to keep him on board despite issues like this, and now he’s acting kind of ungrateful and bitching about everything.
Kyle was also drunk that night, which caused him to overshare (as is the norm for him while filming) as he’s complaining about his friend, and his addiction issues, so there is that irony.
Carl cries how hurt he was when Kyle said that publicly, but again, his struggles and sobriety have been playing out on the show, so how private was he trying to be? And that little tidbit wasn’t really THAT juicy or terrible.
I honestly didn’t know Carl was into the hard stuff. Thought it was just alcohol.
It seems like a little overkill, since he is sober and seemingly has his life together now.
So there’s guy tears and Amanda orders Kyle go give him a hug, as Kyle continues to apologize profusely, and wow, okay can we move on??
And we know Danielle kisses their ass (well she’s in love with Carl so…) and defended him during that conversation. Andy is crying. Everyone is crying as Danielle eagerly receives her ‘way to go’ and ‘great friend’ accolades. Funny moment when Kyle uses the tissue meant for Amanda.
Okay, I foresee a Kleenex or Puffs endorsement here.
Carl is being understanding, and shares more sob-worthy info, that he and his brother who passed away a few years ago from his addiction, had been at odds before that due to Carl talking about his drug addiction on the show. So, honestly, does Carl even have a leg to stand on to be whiny about what Kyle said? And that’s really heart-breaking and sad.
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So we reconvene with Kory joining in, who got in trouble with a production lady for having a beer with him. These people act twelve, but it was funny.
Sam and Kory really are cute. They are. She gets compared to Jess on Winter House and Kory answers the obvious, when asked what is different than Jess. He is actually into Sam, and he wasn’t into Jess. All the signs were there for that girl, that he wasn’t into it, and she didn’t seem to pick up on it.
This is kind of embarrassing for Ciara, when Andy points out that she liked him and (sort of not really) tried to go for him. I think this is where her no-personality thing is a problem for her. She needs to do the Carma Brown wig and persona, always.
She needs to find some sass and livliness somewhere.
Guys like a little bit of a challenge. They need someone to tell them like it is, and not sit there and stroke their ego.
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Paige and Craig – kind of ready for them to break up. Her whining about moving away from her parents seems a little childish. Why wouldn’t you want to branch out, and get out of your area??
She’s 31 years old. And we’re not talking Europe here. It’s South Carolina verses New York. Maybe a three hour plane ride?? It all sounds stupid coming from someone who tries to come off all gritty and independent.
Why doesn’t she just say she doesn’t want to marry Craig? I t really think that’s the issue. Duh. I think Craig would be fine in New York, I think she’s using that as an excuse too.
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Oliver was cheating on Mya, a guy cheating?? Shocker. Eleven girls? Wow sounds like my ex-husband.
Robert dumped Danielle. I don’t even care, like Danielle is such a weirdo in my eyes. Of course a relationship isn’t going to work when you’re NEVER together.
I think Robert hit her up on social media just for chef exposure anyway. She insists the distance had nothing to do with it.
Maybe he realized she’s in love with Carl watching the episodes back. She is trying to act unbothered but I think she’s really bothered.
Question for Danielle. “Were you projecting your own relationship issues onto Lindsay and Carl??”
No, she claims, although like 10,000 viewers saw this play out, and asked the same question. And absolutely NO ONE is going to admit to that. Just like bad behavior due to jealousy, people won’t own that shit either usually, because it makes you sound like kind of an asshole, and you just cannot defend it. So it’s easier to just deny it.
She has her mouth open pretty wide preparing to fabricate the excuses, but unfortunately it’s just Charlie Brown wahwahwah, I don’t even care what she said.
You know what did it in for me with her, even though I’m struggling with being on Lindsay’s side, (not like a ‘team Lindsay’ kind of thing, she sucks in different ways) when she said to Lindsay at her housewarming thing, “I’m allowed to feel weird about it.”
Like what the fuck. Like tell us you’re jealous and still into Carl, without telling us you’re jealous and still into Carl. I’m assuming “I feel weird about it” was because they briefly dated several years ago.
So if that’s the case, THEN SAY THAT. Everyone knows it, just say it. I’m kind of surprised Lindsay didn’t bring that comment up. I can’t listen to her. She’s so fucking stupid, she seriously thinks that Paige, Ciara and Kyle are her real friends, and give a shit, when they’re just ‘supportive’ of her quarrel with Lindsay, because they hate Lindsay.
I almost felt bad for her when she stepped out of the kitchen, and thought they were all standing there to embrace and support her, when they were just being nosy and eavesdropping and looking for more ammo against Lindsay.
Lindsay does feel it was projection, and Kyle interrupts claiming that it had nothing to do with Robert. Dude SHUT UP. How would you know?? You don’t. It had everything to do with her fledgling relationship, jealousy of Carl’s and Lindsay’s fun dynamic, that she and Robert didn’t have, and she was pissed they were getting engaged, when SHE wanted to get engaged. Probably to Carl, and not Robert. It was too much for her.
So Kyle took it upon himself to call Robert and to get info about their relationship. (I wonder if Paige Ciara and Mya could look any more bored – it is really the Lindsay, Carl and Danielle show so I get it)
Then Carl admits to meeting with him, which I get why they would need to clear the air, because Robert got put up to that weird convo with Carl, that Danielle should have been included in the engagement. Which sounds insane, but she really did. And she literally still insists that she was wronged for being ‘left out.’
Even by this point, she hasn’t seen that she’s being so completely out of line. Like I am wondering if she wanted a throuple thing here. Raquel on Vanderpump admitted she had those thoughts so, hey, it’s the cool thing to do now. Just say it.
Danielle is pissed off that Carl would have the nerve to speak with Robert, and neither of them reached out to her with some sort of break-up condolences. Whatever. I’m so over it.
Apparently though, we’re not done talking about it, and Andy addresses the topic in a really bizarre way, as if they are a throuple – “the biggest relationship shocker of all – the tres amigos – Carl, Lindsay and Danielle.”
Danielle is so weird to me to really be wanting to hang around with a couple non-stop, and that she really thought that was a sustainable thing, and wasn’t just temporary. Even if she wouldn’t have been acting like a dick and gossiping about them, I think she would have been ditched at some point. So, she wants to hang around them non-stop, and be an annoying third wheel, however she also wanted to piss and moan, and call their relationship ‘weird’ and say they were moving too fast to anyone willing to listen. Got it. But she wasn’t jealous.
Andy: “when did you think things started to change between the three of you?”
I can’t.
Danielle keeps trying to sell that she was just trying to be a ‘good friend’ by suggesting they don’t get engaged. Does she hear herself? Does she believe herself? And figuring out finances isn’t any of her fucking business. Man, she really did want to be a throuple, didn’t she?? At least Raquel had the balls to admit it.
Andy is corroborating this shit, when it makes NO sense. Clearly this is some biased bullshit. And he is entitled to his opinion too. If he doesn’t care for Lindsay, fine, I do get it, but he needs to put her bitchiness to the side for the moment and see that Danielle is wrong here.
Desperate Danielle is trying to say Lindsay only got that pissed because the second hand info came from Paige, and she hates Paige. She denies that, and I don’t think so either. Either way, it sucked that she was telling everyone this.
And I know it seems like dead horse beating, but it is a valid point that Lindsay has on the ‘moving too fast’ argument, that Danielle moved in with Robert two months into dating and even knowing him.
So, how can you say, several months in, for Carl and Lindsay, is moving too fast? Has she ever even answered that one? Because I don’t think she has.
And she still manages to dodge it, yet again as Lindsay points out how long she’s known Carl and what they’ve been through, and Danielle thinks it’s a fucking competition.. and makes it about HER!
I wish someone would make her answer that question.
I don’t know about Paige’s very strange and random laugh outburst. Someone tell her she’s not Meryl Streep. She’s not even Jennifer Lopez. Like stop. I don’t even get what the fuck was so funny about that question about ‘main character energy.’ I think she’s just mad she’s not the center of attention.
“Do you understand why Danielle was mad to be left out – you told the guys, and the people you had flying in…” Blah Blah Blabbity Blah !!
Maybe he didn’t include her, because she screamed into a fucking pillow like a psycho when he did let her in on the fact that he was looking at rings. This chick is psycho. This chick is psycho. Psycho.
Carl is AGAIN apologetic, and tries to explain, when he’s already explained it a thousand fucking times! He didn’t want to let any of the girls know, because you know, girls blab. Fucking Duh. This is NOT hard.
Andy is egging this shit on, and has clearly chosen his side, when as the sort of makeshift moderator here, he should at least try to be neutral.
“But she’s one of the tres amigos” Andy says so seriously, as if it’s a real thing. As if it’s not odd.
Carl has a point when he recalls when he told her that he was ring shopping, did she offer to help with any planning? Did she ask any question, or act interested? When? What kind of ring??
No. Nothing. She screamed.
And that is a valid point. I think things would have been much different for Danielle, had she acted like a normal person, and acted excited and hugged him and promised she wouldn’t say anything, and asked about the plans.
Danielle stutters and stammers. She didn’t know he was planning an engagement, when he said he was ring shopping. Oh My fucking God. What the fuck does it mean when a dude says she’s buying a ring you fucking dipshit??
She claims she had no disdain for him buying her a ring, she was frustrated. About what?? What was frustrating? Was he asking you to pay for it??
Was it maybe frustrating because he wasn’t proposing to you ???
She needs to do some soul-searching and just come clean. Because she looks like a fucking fool with all of her excuses that I’m sorry, make NO SENSE!!
The other couch, Gabby especially, reflects 90% of the viewers.
Carl makes a good point – “there’s plenty of women that get engaged and the BFF has no idea it was happening.”
Kyle: “but they’re not usually in the same house.” That makes no sense. It’s really sad that no one will speak out on their behalf here. Danielle is in the wrong.
She cannot be this thick. She just can’t.
And yep she is, because as Carl could not be more clear and more concise and more nicely telling her to get the fuck over it, this ding-dong says “you didn’t give a shit about me.”
No he didn’t – it’s not about you. He didn’t want to marry you. Robert didn’t want to marry you. Get the fuck over it. Stop taking it out on people who have nothing to do with it. And your hair sucks!! God!! Sorry but she’s getting under my skin.
Andy asks her to address her behavior at the engagement soiree, and she does seem slightly regretful, however, doesn’t really take accountability for it being fucked up, doing that.
She justifies it by claiming she was ‘hurt.’ In a million years she wouldn’t think about making her engagement party about her, she claims. Well I guess it’s the millionth year, because that’s exactly what she did.
Lindsay tries to tell her this, and she just cannot receive it. She apologizes but it’s followed by a lot of but’s. Lindsay tries to say more, but Andy makes her stop at accepting the apology.
Kyle thinks he needs to intervene here, and he needs to not. Everyone looks bored at all of this bickering about Danielle and this fucking engagement.
No one will say they think Lindsay and Carl have a point. The other side hates Lindsay, and the newbies are afraid to speak up, or just don’t give a fuck.
Kyle and Amanda seem to think Danielle’s behavior was okay, because she was ‘hurt.’ No, that’s not an excuse to act like she acted. I mean, you could use that as an excuse for any bad behavior. It doesn’t fly. And she had no reason to be so fucking butt hurt.
And Lindsay kind of has a point for being so non-chalant on their kitchen convo.
Because SHE was hurt. So the ‘hurt’ thing is a valid excuse for Danielle, but not for Lindsay??
After Andy goes on this big soap box diatribe about their friendship, favoring Danielle, she claims that her issues have never been about her and Carl as a couple. What?? That was actually her whole ENTIRE issue, her and Carl. What is happening here?? This is some Bravo viewer gas lighting here.
Lindsay sort of, not really, says she’s willing to move forward. I think she has no intention of rekindling the friendship, and I just can’t say I blame her. I just don’t. Danielle is fucking off.
She’s just lucky everyone hates Lindsay, so it seems like she has all of this support, when it’s really not about her. It’s about ganging up on Lindsay. It’s fucked up.
The do shots and we are done. This was excruciating. Kudos to me for getting it done. I almost skipped it. Summer House is getting a little tedious, and most of them are too old to do this share a house for the summer in the Hamptons thing.
