Does anyone think there’s truth to what Whitney is saying about alleged child abuse? Heather asks her how she “figured it out?” and she says, “it’s hard to explain.” Seems like that’s a pretty cut and dry answer. She wasn’t asking for details on the abuse.
Like hypnosis?? Therapist jarred her memory with particular questions? Seems a bit odd she suddenly has “blocked out” age 8 through 17. She does come up with an attempt to explain what she means.
Heather is giving her some serious side-eye. I don’t think she believes her. I almost hate to say that over something so serious. Like how I don’t believe Crystal has an eating disorder. I will feel bad in the event I’m wrong, but I don’t think I am. And I wouldn’t put it past these ladies to make shit up, and embellish about serious issues.
Lisa starts on an apology rant to Meredith. Don’t know how she can make it any clearer that she’s sorry, she didn’t mean what she said, she even says “I don’t think those things” (kinda think she does though, but God love her, she is trying) and wraps it up with calling her rant a “poor choice of words.”
Meredith latches onto this last comment. I guess, she didn’t hear all of the expressed regrets before that, andsays “you don’t regret the venom and hatred that you spewed, and what you said, only that it was a poor choice of words?”
So no, that’s not what she said. She did she regrets, and is sorry for the venom and hatred, ALONG with poor choice of words. Which pretty much covers everything that she said.
But you can tell Meredith just wants to keep this going, no matter how much she apologizes.
Which is fine, it was some pretty shitty shit. And I think a lot of it might be true. Did she fuck half of New York? Okay that one might be an exaggeration, that’s a lot of dudes. But I believe she had some man friends in NYC she was entertaining, when she and Seth were sort of separated, kind of, two years ago.
Meredith tells Lisa that she ‘made up’ the crap in the rant, because those are things she’s never told her, since she’s never really trusted her.
OKAY, now I gotta go on a rant. Meredith – really now? You want to say she “made things up” and not that these were rumors swirling around.
I mean come ON, the shit she was yelling, are things I would say even someone wouldn’t tell a close friend, because it’s embarrassing.
She wouldn’t admit she ‘can’t’ purchase a home, due to credit or income issues, and she most likely wouldn’t have told Lisa she’s banging a bunch of dudes in NY when she was with Seth.
Lisa keeps with the “I was hurt” as her excuse. Meredith wants to know, if it was because she said that her house was ugly, since that’s what she said in LA. (at reunion last year) They play the flash and she really did say that, as unbelievable as it sounds, that she would actually use that as an excuse, she went on a rant of embarrassing vile accusations because Meredith said her renos looked crappy. What can you say about these women except they’re shallow as fuck.
I cannot get out of my head that Meredith looks like Caitlin Jenner, and I am trying. So did Kyle on WWHL for that matter. Not sure what they’re all getting done, but everyone looks like the Kardashian/Jenner clan now.
Meredith goes on kind of a sermon style scolding of Lisa, with telling her she has heard of her speaking of her poorly in other instances. Lisa just says I haven’t, and Meredith yells, “stop interrupting me, you are an interrupter.” (an interrupter??) What is with Housewives and the ‘interrupting’ thing? When they’re on a speech or sermon or whatever, and someone just says like two words, not to interject, but to add something, or in this case, deny the accusation, they go all off the deep end and say “Oh my God! You interrupted me!”
To me, ‘interrupted’ is when you butt in, and completely take over the conversation in the middle of someone talking.
“You’re being very impolite.” Meredith is enjoying the PISS out of talking to Lisa like she’s a child.
When you’re on a scolding rant to someone, and they say, “no I didn’t do that” this is not an interruption. It’s called conversation, when you’re answering questions or addressing accusations in someone’s lecture.
Meredith scolds her again for ‘interrupting.’
‘Interrupting’ is the word of the day, apparently!!
She’s almost finished, she says. Think she spent more time scolding Lisa for interrupting, than actually even getting her point across.
Meredith tells her she needs to “Get help and make changes and there’s nothing else that she can do for her and if she thinks she SHOULD be getting some help she’s happy to help her”
Is Meredith a therapist now? Usually when you’re telling someone to ‘get help’ you’re advising professional help. Now she doesn’t “profess to be a doctor” when Lisa questions what help Meredith thinks she needs.
Now it’s going all kinds of left because Lisa is insulted about her mental stability being questioned. Meredith claims she made no commentary about her mental state.
Heather in her yap – “Meredith’s words are not dirty or mean, but they cut a bitch.” Then she proceeds to do a perfecto impression of Meredith advising Lisa about her mental state.
Give this bitch her own show! Heather is hilarious, and possesses the comedic timing many a housewife wish they had. Rinna, Erika, Heather DuBrow… I’m sure there are more. Lu maybe on RHONY?
Who would much rather see a spin off centered around Heather Gay, her girls, and Beauty Lab, over stupid dry ass Leva on Southern Charm and her ‘empire.’ (aka bars)
Whitney who is buzzing, of course, or a little beyond buzzing, and also tries to talk like she’s holding a doctorate in psychiatric medicine, urges Lisa to “be vulnerable” and express to the group “where the pain is coming from.” Thought we established that. Meredith called her house ugly. Pay attention Whitney! Put the wine down for a minute.
Lisa goes on to try to offer additional explanation, but has had it, and is pissed with the diatribe that she just received. And she just gave a mostly heartfelt and seemingly sincere apology to Meredith. So not sure why Whitney tells her to “be vulnerable.” She was. she also did explain where the anger came from.
She was hurt about —- something —- I don’t even know anymore, but the Lisa Barlow vulnerability and ‘I’m sorry’ meter is maxed out and it’s time to drop it. She gives some analogy about “not slitting her wrists for anyone” aka – she’s over the graveling.
What do we say about Housewives and analogies? Don’t do them! Meredith tells her, “that’s a horrible thing to say” as Jen whispers to her she had a family member that tried to commit suicide.
Meredith pulls out all the damned stops to make it seem as like that comment/analogy has completely devastated her.
Watching Housewives, I sometimes feel like I’m watching amateur auditions for a play, or maybe the actual play, with mediocre second rate actors that aren’t very talented, and over act every scene, because they think that make them better actors. Lisa just needs to pack it in at this point and just stop.
Speaking of mediocre second rate actors, Meredith is done flailing around with her pretend reaction to Lisa using a suicide analogy that I really doubt bothered her at all, so now is the perfect time for Jen to go on a tearful speech about her current plight.
She starts fishing for pity and talking about how much she cares and appreciates her family and whatever whatever what — everrrrr.
Actually maybe Jen isn’t so much of an amateur because if you didn’t know better, you really would think she was innocent. I probably mentioned this last week, but isn’t it funny and ironic how these bitches all rally around her in support and encouragement, THIS season when it’s now completely obvious that she really is guilty, and clearly in some sort of denial.
Think we’re wrapping this up.
Meredith tells Lisa she appreciates the apology, but they need to have more discussion to be able to move forward. More discussion? What more possibly could there be more to say? Lisa said she’s sorry every which damned way possible.
Whitney makes a joke about setting her on fire. Surprised there wasn’t a huffy arm flailing event about THAT being “a horrible thing to say- Oh my God did you say that? I had a family member that set themselves on fire!”
Lisa makes a joke about her hair extensions stinking. Guess she doesn’t know real hair stinks? I think these women are so used to wearing extensions, that they forget about actual real hair.
So Jen, I mean what can you say? She’s super perky and seems to be in good spirits at the time they were filming right?? Did she just realize she has a really ugly cry face after watching last season?
Does she honestly think she was getting off ?? Does she not have a conscious or any remorse at all?
She’s walking around with a megaphone singing “Good Morning to All!” I see on Social media a lot, comparisons between Jen Shah and Erika, that there seems to be less outrage for Jen than Erika when Jen was the actual committer of the crime of robbing people, and Erika was merely a beneficiary of her husband robbing people. The short answer? Jen when acting normal, and not freaking out, is funny and likable. Erika when acting normal is a fucking cunt, and one of the most unlikable people on the planet.
Meredith was feeling left out with Jen having a glam squad on trips and thinks she needs one too, apparently. This is the business to get in. Do you need a license to just apply makeup?? I can apply makeup. You get to go on these fab trips for free (I assume) get paid while you’re there, tons of free time when you don’t have to put lip gloss on these hags trying to look 22.
Not sure if these are people she brought with her though or a glam franchise she called in Arizona. Well whatever, Heather thinks it’s funny and is laughing at her about impressing the cacti and the tumbleweeds. She says it’s “very Jen Shah of her.”
Hope there’s no argument over 25 bucks, like there was on Atlanta when Drew’s guy touched up Sanya and the ho didn’t pay!!
She has rollers in her hair ? She has her makeup person fussing with her face as she dryly tells Heather “here’s the problem that I have, I was very honest with Lisa what I needed to move forward and unless you’re willing to change the behavior the apology becomes irrelevant.”
That’s all well and good, but if you’re not reconciling with her, how will you know if she’s ‘changing the behavior?’ (as if she’s a dog) Is she just going to wait around to see if Lisa calls her a garbage trash whore again?
Heather is also puzzled, and not sure why she’s sticking up for Lisa, but let’s just roll with it I guess.
She points out there’s not much more Lisa can do to prove she’s sorry and she’s coming off as condescending and superior.
Lisa tries to use the “stab in the back” phrase I think, but says “stab me in the heart.”
There seems to be a lot of violence going on here, wrist slashing, burning alive, stabbing. Heather reminds her sort of how she made up with Jen, when Jen also acts like an asshole, and is a criminal.
Heather points out in her yap that it’s pretty obvi Lisa is not forgiving her, just for the sheer fun of not forgiving her.
Yeah Mer wants to milk this shit all season long. So ladies and gents, and everyone, what that means to you and me, is that we’re going to be listening to this same convo for four fucking months, only to find them besties NEXT season. Or, scenario number 2, suddenly besties in the final few episodes, then pissed off at the reunion over social media or something someone said in her yap when they watch back.
Okay so guess these trolley/bike bars are a thing. Saw this on Jersey when the went to Memphis.
While looks fun, they also look a little scary.
Why doesn’t Whitney just become a porn star and be done with it?? She literally starts treating this two foot ‘pole’ on the trolley as a stripper pole.
She’s got her tongue out, she’s ready to roll. She hangs upside down from the top of the trolley, as Jen pours wine into her crotch. Well at least she’ll be clean down there. Actually I got curious and looked this up, and pouring wine down there, or any alcohol really, is bad for you lady parts. So ladies, you hear it hear, don’t hang upside down in a bar trolley, and have your friend pour a can of wine into your vagina. It might get you drunk faster though.
Now they’re throwing wine on each other. Where are they going that they’re not going to mind being wet, sticky and reeking of alcohol. I’m so confused.
Guess these Mormons didn’t get this shit out of their system in high school and college like a normal person. I can’t even imagine this is okay with the trolley driver and owner. Throwing wine everywhere, that will need cleaned up before they pick up the next batch.
Whitney in her yap: “Lisa and Meredith are passively aggressively throwing cheap wine on each other.”
That’s right, they’re going on this horse riding show adventure thing since Lisa “loves horses” and guys, as we’ll hear another fifteen times, is wearing Dior boots that John bought for her. (that she totally picked out, and ordered herself, I have a feeling. Hopefully she doesn’t try to give them as a gift to Meredith.
This is sort of a synchronized swimming type of performance, except with horses.
So they get to change out of their alcohol infused, and soaked clothes, don these colonial type dresses, and try their hand at the synchronized horseback riding. Heather pulls Lisa aside and is really hardcore Team Lisa, for whatever reason no one gets, because Lisa always treated her like crap.
Whitney tries to disguise provoking, pot stirring, whatever, as feeling hypocritical for gossiping about Lisa’s rant, and things she called Meredith, when they have been gossiping about her and supposedly giving blowies for tequila sales.
Meredith sees what she’s doing here, calling HER out on hypocrisy because she was gossiping about Lisa’s also.
Meredith starts to do a little Teresa Guidicing and is like ‘I didn’t spread the rumor, I just mentioned I heard it. (which is spreading a rumor)
“I was being vague, and said there are things out there PERTAINING to her marriage, PERTAINING to her finances, PERTAINING to whatever. And yes she does say PERTAINING three times.”
And when you say that you heard a woman is “doing favors” for someone, it is inferring sexual favors. Meredith is trying to deny that is what she was getting at.
Whitney’s looking like this is getting done, no matter what Meredith says. Meredith also tries to point out that Whitney was saying she heard things too.
Back on the ranch, once Heather was able to actually get up on the horse, she actually looks the most regal. Her blue and purple dress is flowing perfectly over the horse.
Jen looks a little like a stuffed sausage. Lisa mentions her Dior cowboy boots from the ‘Gaucho collection’ again. Meredith ridicules her in her yap.
Okay, so Dior Colonial Lady Synchronized Horseback Riding has come to a close, and they’re getting ready for the Garbage Whore Lingerie Party.
Now those are two things you don’t say, or read about every day. But here we are, in Bravo Housewife land. Where the rules are, there are no rules. Naturally, synchronized horseback riding and garbage whore lingerie parties are the norm.
Whitney is carrying on with how this will be ‘helpful’ if she lets Lisa know there’s gossip swirling about her having side dudes.
So we literally have Whitney and Heather walking around the kitchen in trashy lingerie, preparing food. And you know, Whitney’s gotta get the thong action going on. Can’t wear lacy shorts or regular underwear. Gotta rock the fabric up all of your crevices look. Meredith is a little more toned down, with her ‘I heart NY’ baseball cap of course. Lisa is in full on grandpa pajamas. Maybe she feels weird since she was the garbage whore perpetrator?
Whitney is really going to cook on the grill with like, all of her flesh on her entire body exposed.
They’re making the dinner ‘super chic.’ Is Dorit in the house? They should’ve invited her, Arizona is only hop skip and jump from LA right??
Meredith bursts onto the patio where Whitney and Jen are grilling, because she’s worried they’re all conniving on how they’re putting the Lisa rumors on Meredith, which they are. Jen also blames Meredith. She’s walking around with her head all cocked to the side like she does. Like she’s in a constant state of confusion. She’s still claiming she wasn’t specific, was vague and she didn’t say it first.
Whitney lies that Meredith has put HER in the middle. And you can so tell she’s making this up, but whatever. Here we are, over produced Whitney and over produced Housewives, instead of just living their lives and getting into drama and antics on their own, this is the new NOT improved Bravo.
When all else fails, why not just make shit up, and if you can’t make shit up, just pretend to make shit up. How has Meredith put her in the middle here??
They flash to the charcuterie scene last week, and Whitney is actually the one that offered most of the dirty deets, and Meredith just corroborated her story, that she’s also heard things.
“I have a mutual friend of Lisa’s, and he’s very wealthy and well-known, and he has said she slept with him to sway him to invest in her businesses.”
And at some Jazz game, her kid and husband where sitting in his seats, so seems like she did something for those tickets. Or maybe that just proves she knows him, and they’re ‘friendly.’ But you do really see this was all orchestrated, to lead up to Whitney exposing everyone as gossiping about Lisa, whilst she sits there like Kyle Richards and sips her margarita.
Whitney, when this is her baby, for some reason tells Meredith that SHE needs to be the one to say it. Usually Housewives are a little more sneaky and smooth with shit. They don’t just blurt out, “I need YOU to say it” to someone. (having another do their dirty work) At least not on camera anyway.
Whitney is ranting (ranting and interrupting are the words of the night) about being Nancy Drew, and clapping her hands and chanting “I, will, not, do, it any, more.”
Meredith: “Whitney what are you even talking about?” Yeah Good question, Mer. Good fucking question. No one knows. I do get her Nancy Drew reference, as that was what she was being referred to as last season. But it doesn’t really apply here. Someone offered (according to her story) this information to her about Lisa. There was no Nancy Drewing needed.
She is being so messy, not in a Housewife ‘messy’ way, but messy as in sloppy. She’s making no fucking sense. If she wants to blurt this out at dinner to Lisa, to cause a big thing, then just blurt it out at dinner and cause a big thing. Lose all of these strange justification, as to the reasons.
Whitney also claims she feels ‘conflicted’ because she has talked about rumors about Lisa outside of her marriage,
“Meredith brought it up, Whitney claims, (dramatic music, and they pause for her reaction, camera right on her, but she doesn’t say anything) she came to me about alleged rumors about you.” Meredith is not biting. This is hilar.
Insisting again, she’s in the middle of Meredith and Lisa’s argument. I’m not sure Whitney knows what it means to “be in the middle.” Also thought she was so distraught about some alleged abuse anyway.
Heather thinks Meredith told Whitney the story about Lisa banging random dudes, because that is how she spun it. But they played the scene people, and Whitney told Meredith.
Heather looks annoyed. Lisa is doing ugly cry face. Meredith is denying that she’s the one that started the convo. And yes they’re all in their garbage whore uniforms yelling at each other, around a dining room table.
Meredith isn’t sure why she’s involved in this, because this isn’t even what she has heard. She’s heard other rumors but not the ones Whitney told her, she says in her yap. Wonder what those are.
Whitney accuses Meredith of saying that Lisa does these ‘favors.’ Which she did say, at Whitney’s prompting by telling what she knows, and asking “what have YOU heard?”
Whitney cries out: “This is retaliation, we are not involved, (she and Heather) and you two need to work this out.” (Lisa and Meredith)
Whitney, none of that made any sense. Now Lisa is yelling at Meredith. She’s throwing around the ‘retaliating’ rhetoric since that is what Whitney said.
So Whitney started a little gossip session, Meredith listens, and very minimally contributes. Whitney ran and told Lisa about the discussion, except pinned the instigator as Meredith. And Meredith thought she came over that day, for some wine and charcuterie.
Lisa goes upstairs to call John.
Jen, again just like the previous night, starts randomly crying and ranting about her situation. Basically she repeats what Lisa said. “all I have is John Jack and Henry.”
Jen: all I have is MY family, literally, I don’t have anything else.” Cocked head Meredith goes to comfort her in her Meredith way.
She reminds me of a group of little kids, when one starts crying, they all start crying. That is Jen Shah.
Whitney said she “owned what she said” and Meredith tells her no, she created confusion by making her think that she said those things
Lisa is doing the simulated packing as if she’s really leaving. Meredith tries to apologize to her and let her Whitney is really the one that offered the info. Now Whitney is denying what she said, when half a second ago she said “she’s owning her part.” I’m so confused.
Maybe Whitney is taking hallucinogens or something? This is making no sense. Tired of looking at her entire ass to be honest. She needs sent to her room. She opens more wine since that’s JUST what she needs.
Meredith is speaking calmly to Lisa, admitting she engaged in the rumor talk, and said she has heard things and she should have shut it down.
She accepts it, I guess? Lisa calls herself an empath. Yeah no, Lisa you’re not an empath. None of the Bravo Lisa’s are empaths. Lisa goes to her room to get herself together and Lisa says she’ll check on her in four minutes. She makes a joke out of four minutes.
Whitney seems ticked off this all backfired, and now it seems that Whitney are Lisa are somewhat friendly now. I thought she wanted them to make up. Wasn’t she encouraging that, last night?
You NEED to take hallucinogenics for this shit. Fuck the wine or margaritas, you need full hardcore altering shit to get through SLC, if this is going to be the Whitney we’re getting the whole season.
Or is she just coming out of the gate swinging, so the focus is on her the rest of filming, and she gets her first chair, and you know the drill.
Whitney chugs wine as she tells Lisa that Meredith called her a whore. Which she didn’t.
Whitney thinks it’s opposite day still, and claims she has been thrown under the bus when in fact she threw Meredith under the bus. Meredith just chose to stay calm, and not give this ho the reaction she wanted. Actually pretty smart.
Whitney is fake crying, and now brings Heather into it by saying she at this Jazz game with Angie when they were told this crap about Lisa. (wasn’t this Angie involved in some random argument right at beginning of last season?)
Heather says she doesn’t remember, and Whitney calls her a liar. Heather points out she wasn’t sitting right with them, and perhaps she didn’t hear the convo.
Whitney is too drunk, and/or stupid, and/or focused on having everyone fighting, that she doesn’t think that makes sense, and calls Heather a liar. Heather is pissed she’s being called a liar and storms off.
