So last week wrapped up with Carl excruciatingly attempting to again confront Lindsay, well not confront but you know, inform, her that the convo between him, and his mom and Lou, was a tad more serious and negative than he lead on.
But honestly even what he told her in the previous week’s episode, it sounded pretty serious, and if I were the other half of a couple, whose family was making these types of comments, I think it would get my attention, and I would be wondering what I should be doing differently.
It would be different if his mom and stepdad came off as assholes but they really don’t. And it didn’t seem like they took any pleasure in sharing their concerns.
But there is a certain bracket of people that have a certain personality disorder that you cannot reason with, you cannot speak to, and it’s literally like talking to a brick wall.
Carl again is not doing a great job at communicating. She’s not seeing that he is having very grave concerns about marrying her. You kind of have to wonder, is it a touch of denial? Like she does see it, but is pretending like she doesn’t?
He is trying really hard to sugarcoat it.
At any rate she has a glazed look on her face and keeps repeating “I know, we talked about this.”
She’s just NOT getting it.
It’s almost funny to see, and at the same time sad, how scared Carl is of her.
He should probably stop repeating that his parents love her, because clearly they don’t love her that much if they’re like “hey, we love her, please don’t marry her.” His repeating that is confusing her. She tells him she knows they love her, that’s not a question.
Well it is KIND OF a question Lindsay. They don’t hate you with a vengeance and want you to die, but they also don’t want Carl to marry you.
I would try to read between the lines here, Linds. Jesus.
Neither one of them hug each other or anything like that. They do touch hands.
It’s so sad that things really got this far. When Carl proposed last year she was on her best behavior, or mostly best behavior. I’m not saying she wasn’t annoying and they weren’t arguing, but I think after that ring got on her finger her mask dropped completely, and she got careless, and the real Lindsay came out. These people can only put on a facade for so long.
So after all of that, Carl sitting here looking white as a ghost and defeated, knowing again he was afraid to communicate what he really feels, what profound contribution does Lindsay have?
Why of course – “Can we go back to dinner please?” I mean, priorities.
Ya just cannot fix this shit with a normal conversation and anyone that thinks they can, is in for a rude fucking awakening. Dudes don’t tolerate this shit the way women do. Carl is so checked out at this point.
Jesse Solomon is upset and anxious about his upcoming doctor visit, and having a concern because he felt another lump on his you-know-whats.
Carl sits at the table with Kyle and Gabby as Lindsay goes inside, knowing he again didn’t get through to her that this is a Mayday Code Red issue if she doesn’t make some serious changes. Like don’t be her.
Her thoughts she expressed in her yap about that convo, were just so bothersome and underscoring how oblivious she is to what is going on.
Lindsay, inside fills in the girls. Somehow she does not think Lou’s comment that if he were doing the wedding, he would not not marry them, was that serious.
Paige seems to think so, judging by her expression. Anyone without a severe psychotic disorder that forces them to live in an alternate universe, where they do no wrong, and it’s everyone else, would think that’s a very serious and detrimental thing for your fiance to be told.
Lindsay just rolls it out like she’s talking about the weather.
Can’t make this shit up. If this doesn’t prove to naysayers, this is a true disorder, and people that have never experienced a partner with NPD, this right here is all you need to know.
She’s so far-removed from reality, and so deep in fucking lala land, believing that she’s not doing one fucking thing wrong, and blaming Carl for confiding in his parents and blaming Lou for expressing this thought, that she can’t even fucking comprehend (and she’s a smart person) the extreme severity of this statement.
She can’t do it.
The other girls are seeing it. Well Paige is. Viewers hopefully are all seeing it. And she’s just like ‘yeah Lou said he wouldn’t marry us, oh well whatever, whatta hell does HE know?’
I don’t get why these girls in the house who never cared for Lindsay, she has never been nice to ANY of them that are sitting here right now, Paige Ciara and Amanda, are blowing smoke up her ass like this. Amanda making excuses for her, and eluding to this not being a big deal, is not helping her.
Paige looks extremely bothered by this statement, as any reasonable and normal person should. She looks at Amanda like she has six heads trying to rationalize and convince Lindsay it’s not her.
Typical relationship with an NPDer. Lindsay is perfectly fine, and Carl looks like he just got done fighting a war.
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So this fucking fortune teller or whatever the fuck arrives and what a damned fucking joke. These ‘fortunes’ were literally spoon-fed to her based on the recent occurrences and what has been going on. Lame.
Where’s a real psycic?? Like the one on Beverly Hills fifteen years ago that told Kyle Richards, her marriage was going to be toast as soon as her kids were older.
And it is.
Of all things to ask, Paige asks her if she’s getting engaged in 2024. Girl you keep fucking telling your dude you’re not ready to get married or even make the possible relocating decision. But you want him to buy you a $20,000 piece of jewelry, hand it to you and beg you to marry him.
How in the HELL does she think Craig is going to move to New York when his business is in South Carolina, and owns a home he just purchased and renovated.
Paige is a stupid TikToker and IGer who owns no real estate in New York.
I cannot with her.
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Carl goes outside and sits with Kyle and again just starts unraveling and repeating that Lindsay STILL does not get it.
“I’m so fucked” he tells Kyle, “that conversation with my parents, was bad.”
He seems to be using his parents as the scapegoat, when really the conversation even took place because of his reservations.
He should have just broken up with her this point and not let it drag out for another three weeks.
Kyle says what I said. He’s been sugarcoating and softening the blow instead of just manning up and being honest with her.
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Amanda and Paige cannot believe how ‘spot-on’ the astrologer was. Amanda’s mind is spinning (she claims) over this swimsuit idea that Paige and Ciara put in her head, and she’s seriously going to bring this fucking nonsense up to Kyle.
You had to know he was going to lose his shit. Kyle has a full plate, as he’s been telling her over and over and begging her to pull her weight, and now she wants him to fucking engineer some bikini start-up of hers.
Carl has a meeting with someone about selling non-alcoholic beverages. This seems to be what really interests him and what he’s passionate about right now.
Ciara apologizes to Jesse Solomon for calling him a trash human. Who cares. He does act like a trashy man whore, and he clearly has no respect for women. He needed to be told.
Suck it up Susie. Ciara had no way of knowing he was feeling a lump on his nuts.
Sometimes people need to be told this shit.
Carl and Lindsay have a talk in the kitchen where Lindsay asks about his meeting that morning. It doesn’t take too long before it goes left.
And I know you were dying for my take so here it is, and it’s unpopular opinion as far as what I’ve been seeing on social media. Majority is siding with Lindsay, because she didn’t really do anything that wrong, and it’s perfectly normal for her to simply ask questions, and Carl ‘gaslit’ her, so they say.
So sick of the overuse, and mostly, the incorrect usage of that word.
People, it does NOT MEAN ‘PROVOKE!’ Just say provoke.
Anyway back to this, I don’t disagree that Lindsay has every right to question his potential career moves. That’ fine. I get that. I don’t think Lindsay was being horrible in this particular moment. I just think that Carl is at this point was so sick of her, and due to all of the bitching she’s been doing at him about not having a job, yet shooting down his ideas, that no matter what she would have said here it would have been wrong. Know what I mean? Like he’s just so on the defense constantly.
So it wasn’t so much THIS conversation that got him all riled up, and in his feelings and pissy, it was reaction to how the past six months has gone and just his general sick of her-ness.
He tells her he’s leaning more towards Loverboy than the company he met with that morning. Lindsay wants to know what Kyle’s vision is for his role there, which was fine for her to ask, I agree with the Carl haters on that. Please see above as to why he got so triggered and annoyed so quickly.
What’s with all of the bananas? There’s a lot.
Lindsay refers to his Loverboy return as ‘comfortable’ like going back to an ex.
And I don’t see her being rude or condescending at all. I think she’s trying really hard not to be, but it’s just too late. You can kind of tell she’s not thrilled about Loverboy.
But honestly with the deadline approaching where he promised to have a game plan, if I were her I would just be cheering about anything. I have to admit, I don’t really get her extreme animosity towards Kyle, and why she’s so against him working for Loverboy. She seems to be in a good place with Kyle and Amanda at this time.
She asks if there is anything she can take off of his plate so he can focus better on his career decision. You see him sort of scoff/laugh at that, as if he wants to say something like ‘yeah stop being a fucking a pain in the ass!’
“Your support and positivity” is how he chooses to answer that, instead of my version.
Lindsay takes offense to that and clarifies “I’m just asking questions, I’m not even giving you my opinion.”
Lindsay people, you didn’t think that was combative to reply in that way, instead of saying “of course babe.”
He tells her what I said, because I know fucking everything, that in the past when he brings up decisions or career choices, he doesn’t feel she’s been supportive.
And I hate this thing that they do: “You’re getting angry.”
That’s so condescending. He was agitated, not angry.
She storms off in a huff and goes upstairs for two seconds, gets FOMO, then goes to the pool where Carl is with the other sausages acting like nothing happened.
The guys take Carl’s side, the girls take Lindsay’s side. I don’t get this new obsession the girls have with Lindsay, who until this season, has never been nice to any of them. At all.
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They head out for a boat day, and the happy couple are still not speaking to one another.
That little tiff doesn’t seem like it would be too hard to smooth over. It’s not like she accused him of being drunk or anything.
A weird convo between Paige and West takes place where Paige interrogates him about Ciara, as if she’s not laying right there and can hear everything.
Paige demands to know what’s going on with West saying he’s talking to other girls. I wonder if he ‘has so many girls apologizing to him’ too. Sort of an inside joke. You wouldn’t believe me if I told you.
West clarified he’s sent some flirty messages and that’s it. He hasn’t dated nor slept with other women as he’s trying to get with Cirara. Imagine just being an upstanding guy like that, and not saying something as atrocious as “if you’re not going to give me sex, I’m going to trot across the lot to someone who does.” Imagine being idiot enough to be with a dude that would say that to you.
I’m over this whole thing with West and Ciara. We get it. Also they haven’t even been together for quite some time. Things ended after he took her to his hometown for some reason.
He does say though it’s hard to envision being exclusive if they’re not having sex, which is disappointing, but he’s not threatening to bone the town ho either.
It seems strange for Paige to be drilling him when it hasn’t even been discussed with Ciara yet, as he points out.
The boat day is winding down, Amanda thinks this is the time to bring up to Kyle she wants to design bathing suits and she’s sick of Loverboy because it’s his thing and she needs a thing too.
You can see it going sideways when it barely even gets started.
She claims she would still be involved with Loverboy, but would ALSO do something that embodied who she is that interests her.
Amanda, you’re going to do all of that? Seriously??
What I don’t get is Kyle constantly telling her that he needs her help in the business, but he also says she doesn’t do anything. Would he really miss her that much? Couldn’t someone be hired at very minimal pay to do what she does, or another employee taking over her duties?
So we find out here that Loverboy has not had the best year and has lost a lot of money in 2023 after turning profits the previous three years.
Amanda knows this and really presents this bogus idea at this time?
I don’t know why he didn’t just pretend he thought that it was a good idea and waited for her to realize work would be involved, and forget about it.
So now we have both couples not speaking to each other.
I guess no one can carry these fucking boxes in that have been sitting on the doorstep all weekend long.
Jesse Solomon breaks down to West about his cancer concern.
I assume everything checked out okay. He was on WWHL last week and didn’t say anything about a return.
Kyle tries to make up and apologize to Amanda. He really does not like to argue with her. She is not receptive.
He storms off calling her names. Amanda’s just very immature. I don’t think Kyle being concerned about the business and the bottom line is concerned about ‘himself.’ But his tantrums are childish.
He’s right. He does babysit her. He unloads on Carl and ridicules her wanting to have a ‘passion project’ at this time, and if she worked FOR him, not with him, she’d be fucking fired.
That WAS kind of funny.
